Howmanheyman

That's the first final I vaguely remember.

The cup final was the grand national of football. Shankley was adamant Liverpool should win it thinking it a disgrace they hadn't in their history. Before European football the cup final was basically English football's champions league final.

Time moves on and things fluctuate, or should fluctuate. The fluctuation bit is what certain clubs are trying to stop.

We were tied with them in the 74 cup final for trophies won. We'd won six fa cups by the time they won their first in 65 I think it was?

No championship will go for him, surely after that? He'll not go any further down because they wouldn't pay him enough if they wanted him in the first place. At least he had the press narrative of he's done a good job/ungrateful Geordies/PL club stability to bluff a foolish chairman but he hasn't got that now. Young Alex will have to make his own way now so him and dad will be buttering up all and sundry on behalf of junior to get on the ladder.

Barcelona didn't win the European cup till 1992, would they not count pre 92? What a pile of shit.

Looked like big Al from happy days.

I'm not saying I threw too many down too quickly pre-game but I saw a lad I once worked with called John who I think I called Paul a couple of times.

'I say it all the time, it's up to other people to decide whether it's cheaper to just pay me off or carry on and watch the club I'm currently at whither and die. I'm a tough old so and so who only gets rattled when I'm criticised so ah'll dust meself down and go again till an amicable financial arrangement is made.'

Said with the detached contempt that Brummie spiv, and the others you refer to deserve.

Always got the impression Buxton was just an old bloke walking his dog along the seafront who got press ganged into being Sunderland's manager and never really knew what was going on, so a bit like Joe Kinnear.

Man U away next, you'll see a more pumped up Man U crowd and side for a reason IMO, they'll know they're in for a game and will see us as a threat. We won't get the blasé game Brighton got there, I absolutely hope we don't get a ludicrous VAR/Ref combo but fear we probably will. Let's also hope there isn't any freak injuries as well as I think we'll have a real chance of doing them.

Yep. Hammered Howe for 'not addressing it' and they're going to keep asking questions. That's great lads, start with the PL.

I liked Crosby, thought he was quite funny, Reid is good value and I didn't mind McCarthy either. Obviously couldn't abide allardyce and as for their last few managers? No idea if they've been arseholes or decent enough blokes as they've been so far under the radar. Feeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwmmmmmming. FTM.

Just put sky on and Miguel Delaney is on with another journalist, they're talking about Man City and the WC has also been mentioned, no mention of human rights so far just waxing lyrical about the Man City team and Haaland. Looking forward to hearing Delaney talking about Howe and our players.

Hope you're ok, Wykiki, the missus has had a bit bother with this in the past.

It's weird, as much as I dislike Sunderland, there's been a few of their managers I haven't minded at all, even when they were in the same division as us. Howe hasn't put a foot wrong regarding Sunderland by slagging them or even mentioning them so can only conclude it's the typical mackem green eyed monster showing itself yet again.

Something tells me that this is something that he didn't want, what he really, really didn't want.

Anyway, we'll need to be on it and I think we will be especially regarding our last two home games. 2-1, maybe 3-1.

With Bruce getting some coverage it just makes me laugh even more seeing Howe's press conferences and marrying them up with the reality on the pitch which only tells you he's patently a competent manager at the very least when you compare the horror show of Bruce's football and the verbal shit sandwich with extra diarrhoea sauce that he'd come out with at his press interviews. The petulance alone at people questioning the reality of his football is a relief to behold now he's doing it somewhere else instead of here.