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That scoreline is fucking disgraceful especially considering the line up and the fact they've already had a few run outs this pre-season, although Ashley is ultimately responsible for all this shit, you can definately point fingers at the players for this result, where the fuck is their pride in themselves, never mind the club/shirt? (I know they couldn't really care about the shirt/club). Whats their excuse this time? "Well, as ze Orient player was just about to try and go past me, I couldn't 'elp but think on how ze future is going to be for me and zis great club, next thing I know, he is past me and they score, ze uncertainty of the club is to blame, ze future is not something I find interesting and special, that is why we lost". Cowards and con-men.

Things that piss me off; Southern wankers who ring these phone-ins about Newcastle Utd and tell us they're sick of talking about NUFC and we're not a big club, (actually, this bit makes me laugh, its the bit they usually add that pisses me off), "They only used to get 8,000 when they were in the Championship". Apart from the fact that we've never been in the fucking 'championship', they spout the same shit they heard from any other phone-in mug who can't (and isn't!) asked to back up his claims with any facts to prove his bollocks. I do find it funny that 95% of people who talk about NUFC on these shows aren't Mags. I've got a contract mobile phone, I never use all my talk time, whenever I have to deal with anything like utility companies or just about anything, the numbers they give you are 0845 or whatever, your talk time isn't included for these, every fucking company seems to do it, what's the fucking point of having loads of minutes when these twats (who are all in it together) are creaming as much as they can get from normal mugs like me! Cunts! Pizza menus, lidl brochures and countless other shit that gets put through my door, and thats not including junk mail. FUCK OFF!!! I don't want your shit and I'm sick of it lying on my hallway everytime I come in. I've got to go, I may come back to this later.

The trouble is, if you say nowt, some of them think that they are proven right by your silence.

Again how can I possibly comment on a season that was 20 years ago, I was 4. I don't know the reason why the gates were so low then, it doesnt make sense to me as i've got several videos from that mid eighties era with Villa, Ardilles, Hoddle, Waddle and we were fantastic. I would hazard that the economic situation had some to do with it, Thatcher era... I do take issue with those saying I'm not renewing because its a farce and manager isn't installed and Ashley is in charge BUT preach about how fan fucking tastic it is you have 25,000 true supporters that have signed up for this season. Don't take credit for it, it aint you thats sticking by the club no matter what. Fair weather fans. Fairweather fan, eh? I can't speak for anyone else on here but I'm not renewing because I'm out of work and I won't give Ashley a cash injection when he won't buy or sell anyone and is looking to bail out. I don't want him taking my money as a leaving present, thanks. I'll still be going to games, money permitting, (I have a wife and two daughters,) so I'll still do my bit, just like I did my bit in the division 2 days, in fact, I'm probably the opposite to a fair weather fan as I was left outside when times were good at SJP, so to be labelled fair weather does make me laugh a bit. I don't know what it is about London, but you really do have a higher percentage of bulls knackers who talk shite as easy as the rest of us breathe.

Put it up for sale at £100M, if someone buys, great, if they don't, well, unfortunately we'll just have to plod on, shame we didn't have time to appoint a manager, buy and sell players, you know, the stuff normal clubs do, oh well, at least we saved some cash and being put on the spot from A Shearer.

Look at the name on the top left of the post, that'll help you to tell the difference. Other than that, you'll have to ask Stevie.

No, Stevie appears to have taking a shining to my sig and has 'borrowed' it. Your welcome, Stevie. (Then again, I've rifled the funny pics thread on the other general forum so I can talk.)

I can't see the link our Spurs friend has put on, which is a shame. Perhaps he can explain how a Spurs side who finished 3rd in the league in 1989-90 could only pull in an average, (not one-off), gate of 26,463? Although to be fair, that is still a bit better than the average gate of 25,881 that they got in 1986-87 for finishing third again.

OOPS! Please forgive my sarcasm! Bellamy, "top class"? It seems, though, that you have ignored my question about SNQ! Would you still prefer FFS? A few other names (apart from KP) to throw into the melting pot would be Charlie Hurley, Brian Clough, Dave Watson, Dennis Tueart, Ritchie Pitt etc., and then coming (a little more up to date) Paul Bracewell (forgot that you thought he was a Mag), Marco (remember what he did to you?) etc.! I will admit, then my memory becomes a little hazey. Maybe, trying to "blot out" the thought of "Xisco" etc. ever playing for us - or ever wishing that they could, which I did not! I'd honest to god easily put Bellamy in the top 10 players I've seen in a toon shirt and believe me that is a bold statement, he was better than Tino, certainly more consistent, when he's fit he's without question one of the best players in the Premiership. 18 league goals as second striker in one season in a run of the mill Blackburn side. Average players don't win Young Player of The Year awards neither (if your initials aren't JJ). Craig Bellamy is a better player than Sunderland have had since the 70's at least, and that is a fact. If you understand football you understand Craig Bellamy, I said in 2002 when Bellamy was in our side that I'd much rather have him than the current European Player of The Year at the time Michael Owen, and I meant it. No one did more the latter part of Shearer's career than CB, and as I say he is probably the best player Sunderland could ever sign, although I think the only reason he'd sign is because there is a bitterness towards NUFC from him, and the ultimate sick satisfaction for him would be scoring against us in a Sunderland shirt. He was a little cunt, but he was a little cunt in a way that was good for NUFC, only a knacker like Souness would have got rid of a playing asset like Bellamy the way he did. David Speedie was loathed by Mags for years, even as a young'un I'd have had him here in a shot when CFC decided to sell him, sometimes you need a worky bastard like that to get the team/fans going. I might be in a minority but there you go. The worky bastards we've had directed the anger at the toon fans though that's the trouble, Billy Whitehurst giving the V's, Barton slagging us in the paper etc... Though Bellamy didn't. Barton had a bit of a nerve, Whitehurst was just plain shit and took the huff one night, he couldn't take fans comparing him to the likes of Beardsley.

OOPS! Please forgive my sarcasm! Bellamy, "top class"? It seems, though, that you have ignored my question about SNQ! Would you still prefer FFS? A few other names (apart from KP) to throw into the melting pot would be Charlie Hurley, Brian Clough, Dave Watson, Dennis Tueart, Ritchie Pitt etc., and then coming (a little more up to date) Paul Bracewell (forgot that you thought he was a Mag), Marco (remember what he did to you?) etc.! I will admit, then my memory becomes a little hazey. Maybe, trying to "blot out" the thought of "Xisco" etc. ever playing for us - or ever wishing that they could, which I did not! I'd honest to god easily put Bellamy in the top 10 players I've seen in a toon shirt and believe me that is a bold statement, he was better than Tino, certainly more consistent, when he's fit he's without question one of the best players in the Premiership. 18 league goals as second striker in one season in a run of the mill Blackburn side. Average players don't win Young Player of The Year awards neither (if your initials aren't JJ). Craig Bellamy is a better player than Sunderland have had since the 70's at least, and that is a fact. If you understand football you understand Craig Bellamy, I said in 2002 when Bellamy was in our side that I'd much rather have him than the current European Player of The Year at the time Michael Owen, and I meant it. No one did more the latter part of Shearer's career than CB, and as I say he is probably the best player Sunderland could ever sign, although I think the only reason he'd sign is because there is a bitterness towards NUFC from him, and the ultimate sick satisfaction for him would be scoring against us in a Sunderland shirt. He was a little cunt, but he was a little cunt in a way that was good for NUFC, only a knacker like Souness would have got rid of a playing asset like Bellamy the way he did. David Speedie was loathed by Mags for years, even as a young'un I'd have had him here in a shot when CFC decided to sell him, sometimes you need a worky bastard like that to get the team/fans going. I might be in a minority but there you go.

No, your problem is cockiness, just like a number of Spurs fans are guilty of. (I know I'm typing to myself as you've done a shoot.) I've got respect for Spurs and their support as it happens, I might not like you as supporters in general, (with the odd exception), but I'll always acknowledge a good support, however, the amount of bollocks I've heard spoken or typed from fuckers who blatently don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to NUFC, the club and our history, (and sometimes their own history!), is just too much, honestly mate, it boils my piss. n.b. But please, post again, I think the Spurs support is under-represented on here.

I remember Spurs fan Warren Mitchell commenting on the radio that the "Spurs boys could learn a thing or two from these Geordie fans" when approx 13,000 Mags went to WHL for a 5th round cup tie in '87. Now that you've got a 23k waiting list we'll just have to get Jimmy Nail/ant & Dec/whoever to repay the compliment, eh?

Might get a new home shirt with this message on. The again, I wouldn't part with the cash just to make a point.

I'm not weighing behind their bid or anything like that, i just disagree that a conglomerate of 15 business divisions, with retail brands in each division markets themselves like that. It goes against every rule of channel marketing. I'm only going on my experience of working in and with marketing, not because i have a view on this lot in paticular. The first question has to be 'why'. In the bit i've highlighted you talk about looking to expand their portfolio, so why use a generic umbrella of the investment group when they sell actual brands. If they are not looking to sell their consumer brands but actually get into football ownership, it doesnt make a lot of sense to say their PR over 'getting into football ownership' is just PR, since thats the whole objective. Or are you saying this is to raise their profile as agents of footballers? Again, i'd say PR associated with handling players would be more effective. i'm not convinced either way, just highlighting things that seem illogical to me. Because this is free advertising? because they are a company that deal in this kind of thing and therefore probably need to be seen to be bidding even if they're not. Even if they are interested in buying a football club in Britain but not us, going down the route of announcing that they are serious here will raise their profile for when they do actually bid for some other club. As a global brand overall they want to raise their name and this is a cheap way to do it. Publicity is publicity, I wont ever understand the advertising world, for instance what do BASF get from their adverts on TV? its not even a product, in fact the only product anyone can name of theirs is tapes and nobody uses them anymore yet they spend a fortune showing some fucker climbing a mountain and dont even give us a product to buy? Surely they'd be better advertising in "chemical buyers weekly" or some other related way? http://www.tellyads.com/show_movie.php?filename=TA6380 I've thought that too! (It must work, I just don't know how.)

Bracewell was a good signing, the likes of Hurley, Clough etc, soz, I'm too young. Hand on heart, I can't remember ever watching a Sunderland player and thinking 'I'd love him in our side'. Maybe it's the black & white tinted glasses or maybe it's the shite you've had playing for you for years or probably, truthfully, somewhere in-between.

David Kelly. Being the age I was when we sold Ned he was my first hero. I was devastated. He's got to be up there as one of my all time best NUFC players, more for attitude and vital goals and nostagia than skill, Derby away followed by Pompey at home are the reasons I love this club, Kelly and the players bonded with the supporters in a way the likes of N'zogbia, Bassong, Jenas etc, etc could never fathom.

David Kelly.

If you make a good start to the campaign and play some exciting stuff the "supporters" will come back. I suppose I'm one of the supporters who you've put in brackets who you're insinuating will come back if we start winning. well let's put it into some perspective, I was made redundant in April and am still out of work, (if we get you lot in the cup you can maybe wave a tenner at me, I love that banter, no really), and I'm afraid it's hard to tell your missus that you'll be buying a season ticket instead of paying 'as and when' especially when I'm no different to everybody else who has kids and bills to pay, also, just as important, there's not a chance that I'm putting any large sum into the club with Ashley fucking us about and possibly riding off into the sunset with my cash. To be honest, I can't believe the amount who have gone ahead as per normal. A new job and Ashley getting back under his rock permitting, I'll get a part season ticket in hopefully the same seat I had last year. Besides, 25-30k is still more than the 23,883 who watched a good Spurs side including Hoddle, Hazard etc, who had won the UEFA cup a year earlier, beat us 5-1 in the 1st division in '85.

Billy, when it comes to Arsenal, you're on the same wavelength as me.

Poetry that like, Billy. The more I hear what is going on at your club, the more my heart sinks. The amount of shit that has happened to Newcastle United FC in the last 12 months or so is simply beyond a joke. Sure, relegation raised a few sniggers from non-Geordie fans, as did the unexpected appointment of JFK, but it is now like someone kicking a dog after they have broken its legs and its ribs. If most neutrals came here and read the crap you have had to see go on at your club, I bet the tune would be more sympathetic than "ha ha, sad deluded Geordie cunts." I know that my team will not be missed by the media or other fans as we are seen as a northern Milwall, but to see any other club being shat on repeatedly like this is awful. I'd even feel a bit sorry for Spurs after a while if they had to go through this, and you know I am not a fan of them. Kind sentiments about us, but I really don't know how you think Blackburn are seen as a 'Northern Millwall'. Comparing Millwall to Rovers is like comparing Gary Glitter to Dr Barnado.

She's got a long way to go after the Mido bollocks. Roy Keane effect? Has Keane got a restraining order put on Louise Taylor? If he hasn't it needs to be on his 'to do' list asap.

Good point, I couldn't believe we paid £6M for him in the first place, even before his injury at Anfield he was overated, no wonder Fergie likes Big Sam. An American Mag I know spotted him in Florida about a week or so after our relegation, when I say he spotted him, he couldn't miss him as he was trying to tap his lass as he came out of the bog, when Smith realised the Yank was not only her boyfriend but knew who he was and was also a Mag as well he was less than impressed, the US Mag would have liked to give me more detail on Smith's exact patter but said his accent was 'thick as hell'. Anyway, the moral of the story was, he couldn't score for the Toon, and he didn't score with the lass.

Classy. A superb advert for the non-sponsorship on football shirts.

What gets me is he'd have been back up in a shot spouting about how privilaged he was to be our manager.....great club....great fans...blah, blah. Does anyone think he may be a little bitter? (as well as delusional, of course!)