Howmanheyman

You could argue that Pompey and West Ham were lucky to only get fines as well. The Premier league looks after its own.

So where does that leave NUFC in your ideal, 'competitive' league? I'll eat my fucking hat if you can remember what football in this country was like before that cunt Murdoch got his talons into it.

We've got them at home, lets just go for it. I'd much rather have them at home now than at Wembley in the final. I had a strong feeling we'd get them as well.

Probably got his wording wrong, to be fair. He's probably just glad to be playing at these grounds against good players when he might have still been in the lower leagues. How many oppo players/managers praise SJP? Just about every one who plays us I'd guess, the fans don't always do it but then jealousy is really a big green eyed monster and they're only human.

Standard are pointing the fingure at Ross Turnbull. I watched the highlights at lunchtime and his positioning of the wall is pathetic. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-spo...-carling-cup.do Andy Jacobs said on Talkshite this afternoon that if Cech had been in nets they would've won 3-0. Bitter blue bastard. I was almost tempted to put him him on to hear his take on it as the last time I listened to their show he basically came out with every cliche in the book about how deluded us Mags were the afternoon after KK came back, anyway, I say I was 'almost' tempted, but then I remembered how spectacularly unfunny he and his sidekick are and how uninteresting as well, so I kept my music on as I was painting my kitchen. Thanks for doing the dirty work on our behalfs, though, Dr Ken.

If you look about 49-51 seconds I was behind the white entrance thing about 20 feet up if it was an inch higher you'd see me. That goal gave me more joy than his winner the season after, in fact without doubt the goal is my fav toon goal pre Keegan. See when the toon scored to our left there was 100 toon in the mackem Paddock and they went mental, and the mackems had a right go was like the wild west for a few minutes, Stevie Watson missed an open goal with a diving header about a minute later, would o been even better. That was a very young team we were forced to put out through being skint and having a load of injuries, the mackems were back in the 2nd div after their one season in the 1st after the pure spawnyness of getting promoted by default after Swindons betting scandal*. Most Mags were a little nervous looking at our side and thinking the mackems had more experience in their side, we were the better side after we equalised and you're right, I'd forgotten all about Watsons header, I still don't know how he missed it actually, he flew at it like Billy the fish! Ive been to Roker four times and I can't think of one game where there wasn't scuffling and fighting in their ends at some point in the match, it just always happened. In the 2-1 win in '92 play stopped for about 5-8 mins after both our goals because of rucks in the clock stand paddocks and Fulwell end. *When you look back at how Swindon were dealt with then, you just know for a fact that a Spurs, West Ham etc wouldn't have got punished as bad as Swindon did. For any one that is unaware of what happened, Swindon beat the Mackems in the play off final at Wembley, 1-0, (should have been more), got promoted but at the time were under investigation for an FA cup tie two years previous at SJP where the Swindon manager, Lou Macari had a big bet that we would beat them. We went on to finish 8th in the top flight and had a decent side with Gazza really starting to show what a player he was going to be, Swindon I'm sure were in the 3rd div. Like I said, the football league knew what happened, let Swindon compete in the play offs, saw them win it, then relegated them from the the 1st div to the 3rd, giving their 1st div place to the mackems instead, I remember Mags going fucking ballistic at the time as the play offs were still fairly new and we were still pissed off that finishing 3rd hadn't got us automatic promotion, a few thought that we should have been promoted instead of Sunderland due to our higher league position, (they finished 6th). There were no phone-ins in those days so some did the only thing they could by phoning Alan Robsons nightowls! That cunt was fucking seething that his usual grannies/loners/suicide callers were being replaced by infuriated Mags doing their nuts. Eventually he stopped taking their calls but not before he nailed his colours to the mast by saying that Sunderland should have got the promotion place, he never 'made any noise' about that in the one embarrassing season SJH put him on the SJP tannoy, the fucking annoying ginger prick he was.

Can't believe I've found this. Liam O'Brien's best goal at Roker Park, (and it isn't the free kick). I was at both games shown and I didn't even know that Hardyman got sent off as we were still going mental over Budgies save. The 1-1 game and the Roker end was more packed that day as the mackems tried to give us less tickets by closing a section, the result being that more Mags managed to get in by hook or crook and were more tightly squeezed together, O'Brien's chip was class and seeing it on the telly and us Mags just swaying forward as much as jumping up and down is a sight I thought was lost, glad someone kept it and put it on youtube).

I could only watch half of that, he's a boring bastard, it has to said, with or without an accent. I know he was talking slow for the interpretor but that was nowhere near as bad as shu dutch accshent.

Well put, Parky, but NUFC being NUFC I just can't see us climbing through that 'window'. We'll get half way through and cut our neck on a pain of glass. Shut up, man, it's my turn!

Well put, Parky, but NUFC being NUFC I just can't see us climbing through that 'window'.

What can you say? Comes across as reasonable at times as well. PMSL Yes, you've already said that.

Is this stevie as well?

What can you say? Comes across as reasonable at times as well.

Liverpool have got to have been one of the luckiest teams I've ever seen, I just know they'll come out of whatever shite they're in smelling of roses. I''ll also point out for any scouse reds reading this that as well as the luck they've had through the years, they've also had a couple of very good sides, especially the Barnes, Beardsley, Aldridge 88-89 side. The West Ham cup final, the Arsenal one and the above all, the CL win against Milan, how fucking undeserved were those trophy wins? Luckiest team ever in human history. In fact the luckiest entity, more lucky than that air hostess in Brazil who fell 35,000 feet out of a plane door and landed on a trampoline a few years back. Once or twice is it they've made Cup Finals without playing a top flight team. I think the karma is going to even itself out though, and HEYSEL will come back to bite them 25 years late, and perhaps their luck is floating north across the pennines. With you reading so much about Liverpool Football Club you'd know of course that thousands of ST holders have been boycotting cup games for the last two seasons. Unfortunately having such a big fan base means that it doesn't make as big an impact as most would hope. It seems to be getting through a bit more now though. Can't make out what you're saying about the CL game but no doubt, as usual, every last thing you state as 'fact' about LFC has to be checked because of your fondness for making things up as you go along. To your alter ego - You talk shite as well. Maybe this Wall Street Journal article will help you understand the war the fanbase are waging on all fronts. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...0757773784.html A Texas Tycoon Learns a Lesson: Don't Mess With Liverpudlians Tom Hicks Owns Flailing U.K. Soccer Club; Fans Take Anger to the Bank—Literally By DAVID ENRICH And GREGORY ZUCKERMAN In the old days, English soccer hooligans settled scores with knives and broken bottles. As Texas billionaire Tom Hicks is learning this week, the weapons of choice these days—camera phones, Twitter and spam emails—can be almost as scary. Adam Eljarrah, top, was able to greet the team's owner with an angry poster in New York via a global fan network including Alan Kayll in Liverpool, bottom. Mr. Hicks, co-owner of England's hallowed Liverpool FC, is on the run from a mob of angry fans who blame him for the team's tailspin. The 118-year-old club was one of England's best when he bought it in 2007. Since then, the crippling debt load he took on to buy Liverpool has strained the team's finances and contributed to its woes on the pitch. Now, Liverpool faithful are waging a fierce campaign to evict the American owner. Their strategy: Scare away banks and other financiers who might throw Mr. Hicks a lifeline, starving Mr. Hicks of needed cash and forcing him to sell. To do that, they are using the tools of the digital age to track Mr. Hicks' efforts to drum up money, then bombard would-be lenders with thousands of irate emails, phone calls and Tweets. On Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Hicks learned firsthand what it's like to be the prey in a digital hunt. Around 3:40 p.m., as Mr. Hicks sat on a sidewalk bench in midtown Manhattan, he was spotted by Liverpool native Paul Wilson. It occurred to Mr. Wilson, a 35-year-old financial consultant, that the offices of Deutsche Bank AG and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. were on the same street. He guessed that Mr. Hicks and his son, Tom Hicks Jr., might be visiting the banks to plead for funds. So Mr. Wilson whipped out his BlackBerry, snapped some photos, and zapped the images to his wife, Erin McCloskey. Then he trailed Mr. Hicks walking into the lobby of the building that houses Deutsche. "I didn't throw my coffee on him, but the thought did cross my mind," Mr. Wilson said Wednesday. Ms. McCloskey quickly posted the photos on Twitter and explained the circumstances. Over in Liverpool, the Hicks sighting was like an open-net goal for Alan Kayll, a 40-year-old cab driver who is a ringleader of the anti-Hicks campaign. Mr. Kayll quickly penned a form letter to J.P. Morgan and Deutsche officials urging them not to help Mr. Hicks refinance roughly £200 million ($313 million) that is owed to Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC, stemming from his purchase of the team. "If you join Tom Hicks in raping and pillaging Liverpool Football Club, then you will be making a very powerful enemy," his letter read in part. "You are facing an energized, well-informed mass of Liverpool fans from around the world." He posted the letter online, along with the email addresses of executives at Deutsche and J.P. Morgan. An hour later, a senior J.P. Morgan executive had already received 30 emails from Liverpool fans, with new messages landing every few minutes. "It's totally viral right now," the executive said, deleting emails as they arrived. Public-relations staff at Deutsche said they received hundreds. Neither bank is in talks with Mr. Hicks, said people familiar with the situation. Through a spokesman, Mr. Hicks declined to comment on Tuesday's events or his stewardship of the team. The team's financial woes have hurt its performance. Liverpool finished last season in seventh place, a disaster for fans accustomed to being in England's top four. A team official said this week that the cost of servicing its debts is depleting club resources. Fans argue that makes it tougher to recruit top players. Meanwhile, in Manhattan on Tuesday afternoon, the melee was just beginning. Adam Eljarrah, an 18-year-old Liverpool fan attending New York University, saw Ms. McCloskey's Twitter messages. He showed up outside Deutsche's skyscraper on Park Avenue. The pre-med freshman carried a poster, popular among Liverpool supporters in England, declaring that Mr. Hicks and his co-owner are "Not Welcome ANYWHERE." Mr. Eljarrah says he loitered outside the building for about 45 minutes, hoping to confront Mr. Hicks. Around 6:30 p.m., Mr. Hicks emerged. According to a person familiar with the incident, the younger Mr. Hicks spotted Mr. Eljarrah—identifiable in his red-and-white Liverpool scarf—and told a nearby cop: "This guy is trouble." As the police officer intercepted Mr. Eljarrah, he says, he waved his sign and yelled, "Get out of our club!" Liverpool fans aren't the only ones lashing out at American ownership. Manchester United fans have mounted a campaign against the family of American businessman Malcolm Glazer, which owns the team and has loaded it with debt. In Liverpool, fans who are angling to remove Mr. Hicks are sporting scarves bearing a "Thanks But No Yank$!" slogan. Lately, financial institutions have borne the brunt of Liverpool's rage. Fans have been flooding RBS with letters and phone calls urging the bank to seize the club and give Mr. Hicks the boot. Top executives' inboxes sometimes have been hit with several hundred emails per day. A few weeks ago, some fans started a Facebook page encouraging people to boycott RBS. Mr. Kayll, the cab driver, drew up lists of financial institutions Mr. Hicks is believed to have approached, posting them on a website he helps run that urges fans to help oust Mr. Hicks. The site features an image of a blood-drenched RBS logo. The site's motto: "We will go as far as we need to." Despite the site's menacing slogan and graphic, Mr. Kayll says his group is "totally against violence. We're a group of passionate fans trying to save their football club. All professional people with families." The campaign hit Stephen Schwarzman, the billionaire co-founder of Blackstone Partners, whose GSO Capital Partners hedge fund considered participating in a deal to help Mr. Hicks refinance the RBS loan. By Monday, GSO had backed out of the talks. A Blackstone spokesman, Peter Rose, said the emails (including thousands aimed at Mr. Schwarzman) didn't affect GSO's decision not to participate in the deal. That wasn't the message Mr. Kayll got. Driving his cab in Liverpool Tuesday morning, he says he received a call from London-based GSO executive Michael Whitman. Mr. Kayll says Mr. Whitman told him GSO lost interest in part thanks to the pressure campaign. "He said, 'We understand the passion of Liverpool supporters and obviously took that into consideration,'" Mr. Kayll says. Mr. Whitman didn't respond to requests for comment. Blackstone acknowledges that Mr. Whitman and Mr. Kayll spoke, but deny he said the email campaign forced GSO out of the deal. Still basking in victory hours later, Mr. Kayll was euphoric when the Hicks photos from New York dropped into his lap. He crowed: "We know his every move." He thinks Howmanheyman is me Well the key point I was making was I hope you go bust, because you're a serious bunch of cunts by any standards. I'm schizophrenic and so am I! Can you tell me which part of my post was talking shite? The bit where I said you have had some great sides or the bit where I said you've been lucky on occasions? I've never once thought you were lucky in any of your title wins, in fact you really should have had 19 titles as Hillsborough meant you had to play something like 4 games in 8 days and then a cup final if I remember rightly, and it still took a last minute goal to rob you. However, I stand by the fact that you've had the rub of the green in some of the cups. Arsenal, West Ham and AC Milan you were second best, The UEFA cup final win in the nineties could've went either way and under the Souness slide you ended up in a cup final to play 2nd div Sunderland. Unlike Stevie, (Tuco) and a few others I don't go down the 'bin dippers' route as I'm a little uncomfortable calling a city who are generally working class and socialist, (doesn't mean I can't have a pop at your club), but in a NUFC forum it isn't beyond fantasy to sometimes agree with a fellow poster sometimes. In other words, I'm not Stevie! (It's a bit ironic actually as when I joined here Stevie thought I was someone from another forum he used to get on). If I'm putting my cards on the table, actual scousers don't tend to bother me one iota, it's more your hangers on from Surrey/Ireland/Norway/insert-place-name-here who do my napper in.

Some interesting quotes coming out of Stamford Bridge last night. John Terry Carlo Ancellotti Frank Lampard Allegedly.

Couldn't think of two more polar opposite characters to be honest. I think on sunday we should thank Hughton properly for what he's done here. Who'd hurt of Tiote? Be honest. Who'd have thought we could get Ben Arfa, you'd have thought this time last we'd beat Everton and Chelsea away. The whole ground at once needs to give him a song I think. Shearer hadn't heard of Ben Arfa! Have you heard the stick collymore is giving him about it, reckons he should be sacked of MotD. Now I don't particularly rate Shearer as a pundit and fucking detest that moon faced twat Lee Dixon, but how on earth that utter cretin Collymore can call for someone else to be sacked as a pundit is frightening. An absolute and total lack of self awareness on his part, I don't know who his agent is and what favours he pulled in to get Collymore on the TV and radio but Stanley needs to get down on his knees and give thanks every day to him if you ask me. Getting back to us, though, I'm feeling quite a bit of pride around the place at the minute. We've played some decent stuff so far this season, far better than this stage last year even though we were still winning, the attitude of the players and football management has been first class, we had a stonewall penalty denied at Goodison whilst 1-0 up but managed to stay focused and not let it ruffle our feathers, last night we had a very dubious pen awarded against us but still kept at it, even in our home defeat to Blackpool we still made three times the chances that the Seasiders did despite having an off day. An important factor has been the attitude of the players, the likes of Martins, Owen, Viduka et al couldn't touch the current lot with a bargepole, they knuckle down, dust themselves down with a disappointment and just get on with it. They seem to know about and dig the club they're playing for and realise just how much they need to help each other with our all round squad being a bit short in places. Even though we're no Man Utd or Chelsea I'm genuinely looking forward to seeing our lads giving it their all. And I've probably just put the biggest mockers on our season by writing that, now!

Liverpool have got to have been one of the luckiest teams I've ever seen, I just know they'll come out of whatever shite they're in smelling of roses. I''ll also point out for any scouse reds reading this that as well as the luck they've had through the years, they've also had a couple of very good sides, especially the Barnes, Beardsley, Aldridge 88-89 side. The West Ham cup final, the Arsenal one and the above all, the CL win against Milan, how fucking undeserved were those trophy wins? Luckiest team ever in human history. In fact the luckiest entity, more lucky than that air hostess in Brazil who fell 35,000 feet out of a plane door and landed on a trampoline a few years back. Once or twice is it they've made Cup Finals without playing a top flight team. I think the karma is going to even itself out though, and HEYSEL will come back to bite them 25 years late, and perhaps their luck is floating north across the pennines. They'll get pulled out the shite. Hope they don't, but some foreigner without a clue will buy them out, lets just hope its another shyster that does the buying/borrowing to get them.

Liverpool have got to have been one of the luckiest teams I've ever seen, I just know they'll come out of whatever shite they're in smelling of roses. I''ll also point out for any scouse reds reading this that as well as the luck they've had through the years, they've also had a couple of very good sides, especially the Barnes, Beardsley, Aldridge 88-89 side. The West Ham cup final, the Arsenal one and the above all, the CL win against Milan, how fucking undeserved were those trophy wins?

tip of the day, viz style; Liverpool fans from Northampton. Avoid going to work and getting stick from colleagues by supporting Northampton instead.

this Lets just count up how many first teamers were absent from the starting line up tonight! With regard to Shola I'm defintely not his biggest fan but fuck me he put away two excellent strikes tonight against Chelsea. He did like, both of them goals were top notch. This is the dilemna with Shola and probably why managers take a chance with him, he has this ability to shoot early and put it right in the corner along the floor, his goal last season against Forest being a good example. Frustrating as fuck when he strolls around but great to see when he scores two goals like he did tonight, they were top class finishes.

SKY will be showing this for years. ......Or maybe not. Robbed of a pen on saturday, still went on to get the win, iffy pen and 6 mins stoppage time, still got the win, well done lads, would've been easy to feel hard done by. These fucking refs are shit though.

Arsenal away next. Nailed on.

Cheers, lads!

Pity I never saw the goal, any rivers?

Likewise. ......And fucking get in you morose looking scouse beauty!!!!!!