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I'm not going to go for the obvious and say Owen even though he was the worst pound for pound signing we had, the most disappointed I've been for a player we've signed where I expected him to do well was John Robertson. For those that are younger, Robertson had a very good scoring record for Hearts and was bought with some of the proceeds of the Gazza fee. Unfortunately we were never the same side when Gazza went as he and Paul Goddard were missed and our migdet strikeforce of Robertson and Mirandinha struggled to get on the end of the punts upfield from Dave Beasant and our other defenders. We sold him back after relegation to his club and he started scoring again. Typical.

I was brought up watching NUFC have red numbers on their backs, I always thought black numbers, or white numbers were strange on a black & white shirt. When it comes down to it, the SKY league wanted razzamatazz and squad numbers and names on the back to be a bit like the Yanks and also to make more cash. Somewhere, in some boardroom twenty years ago some slimy twat pitched this moneymaking scheme, (and the PL was born of greed don't forget), and our shirts are never going to be the same because of it. Give me a red number any day, and if its 1-11 even better, your number 9 should have to earn the shirt, if he's out someone else gets his chance to wear it, that's how it was and should be now. A big panel on our back is a slur on our club in the name of naked greed and no other reason.

Well it's just a pride in the shirt, y'knaa, tradition plus wanting it to look canny and not like some 4th division clubs cheap kit supplier has came on board. The club wants shot for not making more of an issue with the plain backs we've had to put up with. How can a club be told what their shirt has to be like? We should tell them to fuck off.

At least the front was canny enough on the last adidas one, this one?

I honestly don't think we'll ever have a home shirt that isn't shite anymore. Why nobody at the club has ever questioned or took a stand on why our shirts should be changed with a virtually plain white back on shows me that they don't really care for our heritage or tradition. I'd love to see the reaction if Liverpool, Man U or Arsenal were forced to change half of their home shirt so little Grasshopper in Shanghai can make out who the player is.

There's always good arguments to be made about selling successful players for big fees and replacing them with 'two for one' and getting a bigger squad, but a look through history will tell you big fees get diluted over time by signing sub-standard players and then the fee is gone. Put simply, if Jose's or Carroll's direct replacements are inferior to them then we are worse off as a team. If other players in the club or prospective players see this it doesn't bode well as far as re-negotiating deals go. Generally speaking, when you sell your better players you end up a worse team. It isn't the fucking Krypton Factor.

I missed all this shite last night. Stevie should've put a 'couldn't give a fuck' option on his poll, mind. I would've shook my head at all this and had a good laugh when I first started looking at TT, now I read stuff like this with interest. ARRRGHH!!!!

Those that say they'd like to talk to a younger version of themselves. I can completely relate to that! Wife put a music channel on last night for a bit and they had 1988 on and I was half pissed thinking of the 15 year old me and this thread came to mind.

Pardew.

It's a good job CT can take a joke. Mine would be; KK Alexander the Great Silvia Saint Pericles Julius Caesar

Is Dadoon a poster from here taking the piss? If he's real he's not from these shores. Dadoon, I vote that you're from Slovenia. Please do not "keep on good work".

Are you for real?

So he's clawed back almost 37% of the £134M he paid for the club without selling it through transfers alone. My chest is swelling with pride as I write this. There's nothing wrong with trimming down excessive spending but does this not somehow irritate you that a club with a cash rich owner, with a profile as high as ours, with gates that successful clubs can only imagine getting and everything going for us..............can see us as the lowest spenders? You and your ilk are like wet dreams to AshLlamb.

He'll probably be like KK was back here in his second spell as manager. He'll do ok, is highly respected at his club and it'll show on the pitch but like KK, the really, really good times wont be coming back. Carrying on in that vein it's mightily fucking rich of the scousers with their 'love in' for their messiah when you consider the shite they threw our way about KK. So long as he's financially backed, he'll do a decent job but I agree, it'll be nowt like before. I must have missed the rolling eyed, smirking, tut-tutting by the usual suspects in the media/phone-in shows about Liverpool fans being pleased/wanting Kenny back, for Christ knows they gave it to us! You're forgetting the massive proportion of the media who are Liverpool fans.. Apart from Hansen, Lawrenson, Collymore, Beglin, Thompson, and Alan Green I'm struggling to name one, to be honest. Ray Houghton!

He'll probably be like KK was back here in his second spell as manager. He'll do ok, is highly respected at his club and it'll show on the pitch but like KK, the really, really good times wont be coming back. Carrying on in that vein it's mightily fucking rich of the scousers with their 'love in' for their messiah when you consider the shite they threw our way about KK. So long as he's financially backed, he'll do a decent job but I agree, it'll be nowt like before. I must have missed the rolling eyed, smirking, tut-tutting by the usual suspects in the media/phone-in shows about Liverpool fans being pleased/wanting Kenny back, for Christ knows they gave it to us!

He'll probably be like KK was back here in his second spell as manager. He'll do ok, is highly respected at his club and it'll show on the pitch but like KK, the really, really good times wont be coming back.

That's how I look at it as well. Al he needed to do was tweak the team but he more or less gutted it and replaced quality with absolute sub-standard dog shit. If you chuck 1000 darts at a black board you'll get a treble twenty at some point. You're being hugely generous about him. People say Ginola's best 6 month were his first and it was down hill after that, he was still good in 96/97, when Dalglish came in Ginola's form completely nose dived. His body language before that UEFA Cup QF against Monaco said it all, and that was down to Dalglish, his tactics, and the fact he's a prick. I remember we played Forest in the Cup with largely the same team that beat Man Utd 5-0, three or four month earlier, Forest were bottom of the league, and we had two attacks all game and lost 1-2. Tactically, impact wise, strategically, direction wise, from where we were he was THE WORST manager we've ever had. I don't know how anyone could've took us further back than he did in such a short space of time. Potato, tomato, potatto, tamato lets call the whole thing off! If he bought a 1000 players and those three were the only good'uns then I agree with you Stevie, onnnne hundreeed and Eightyyyyy percent. What went on with Dalglish and Ginola I would guess is he told him to cover and maybe wasn't as tactful as KK. Who knows? Anyway, I'll leave it at that as I'm not Dalglish's flag bearer or biggest fan. (Honest!)

At first glance he appears to be a disaster but I'm of the opinion that all is not black & white in this case. Was he a good manager for us? No, but he brought what turned out to be three class players in Speed, Given and Nobby, had his hand forced regarding Ferdinand and while he made a pigs ear out of the Andersson, Pistone etc signings, I still think that Tommasson was a good buy which circumstances fucked up for us, and when he signed players at the end of their careers who he trusted for nothing, (Rush, Barnes and Stuart Pearce), it makes you think that the coffers were empty. Not lauding the bloke but giving a bit of perspective. (For what it's worth, I credit our late surge to get 2nd spot and our first crack at the CL with his decision to leave out Ginola and put Robbie Elliott in his place who could genuinely cover Beresford as he bombed forward as by then Ginola wasn't the same player and was obviously not happy). Maybe I'm being generous with him.

A Princess of Mars by Edgar Rice Burroughs as part of a sci-fi series of books including HG Wells on the kindle for 70p! What a good read it was.

I thought he'd do a good job and tweak the side a bit but, well, we know the rest. There was no transfer window when Les was sold and Shearer injured, why didn't we sign someone other than Barnes and Rush? How much did Pierce cost? all fuck all iirc.

I'm not Dalglish's biggest fan either but wonder if his hand was forced in some of the sales as we'd went plc and money was needed? He did sign Speed, Given and Nobby despite the dodgy other signings. Wrong man at the wrong club at the wrong time. The Hall's had no real interest in us after we went plc. Anyway, shit or not he's far better than Souness, who was a fucking chancer extraordinaire.

Walkergate Junior school, Newcastle East Division Champions '83-84

No, I don't mean lucky at all. 1... We seem to have a policy of never holding on to any player who wants to leave. (I agree with that policy) 2... Never kow-towing to players who want to have their already ridiculously high wages raised. 3... Finding out which relatively unknown players are also very good, and buying them for cheaper sums. (Leon Best). In 1995-97 we finished 2nd twice, and we were in the top 3, when it comes to investing in players. Now, we are higher up in the league than plenty of clubs who have spent far more money than we have, eg. Sunderland and Villa. I've got some magic beans if you're interesed in selling your last cow.