Howmanheyman

Buenos Noches. Esteban 'Oz' Osbourne Cultural Interior Ambassador de Newcastle upon Tyne

Try this, Stevie. Me llamo Esteban. Vivo en Newcastle en el Noreste de Inglaterra. Newcastle United el Grande club de football en el Noreste. Sunderland es pequeno y Middlesbrough es muy pequeno. En el sud y el centro de Inglaterra muchos, muchos club de football para 'send a glass eye to sleep, wor kid', especial Aston Villa. (At a rough guess!)

I think it's fair to say this kid or bloke isn't a dyed in the wool follower of this club. Just a hunch. P.S. Whenever an article like this mentions overcoming 'fan unrest', why do they think the unrest happened in the first place. Hall and Fletcher were distrusted by quite a few Mags even at the height of our powers, you're never going to be universally liked. Ashley though, could've been a more popular owner but he's not, there's a reason(s) for that.

I'll be very happy with a dull, uneventful game with no injuries or suspensions and three points, please.

“Jackie Is Dead!” - Roker Park 1989 Derby Gillingham - 1987 relegation to Div 3 Fattest Fans in the PL - NHS Choices Survey 2010 Sunderland fans racist abuse of Darren Bent’s mother - 2009

“I wished to God our Fans were as good as those at Newcastle!” - Tom Cowie “I see you have still had no luck in catching me” - Wearside Jack “Newcastle is a bigger club than Sunderland and it always has been” - Bob Murray

Like an alcoholic, the first step on the road to recovery is facing your demons and admitting there's a problem. "My name is Niall Quinn and Sunderland AFC are not bigger than Newcastle United. God, it's like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders."

Was wondering if there were specific examples in this thread, but I'll try to avoid getting into conversation with you again so as to avoid your wrath, you angry 'little' man. No, not angry, but when someone twice tries to be a funny fucka over the most trivial thing then it gets your back up. My main point is sports direct is intruding on our identity. CT for one gave a shoulder shrug for me. I won't slag him as he's a canny enough bloke. You on the other hand seem to want to pull me up on nothing. Hence I called you a cunt. I'm away out with the wife for some scran. I'll end our chat now. Have a nice day. Yours, The angry man.

I didn't take a straw poll on it. Was more generalising. The sentiment remains you argumentative and boring little cunt.

It would be extreme folly for a club who haven't won a major trophy for over 40 years and whose biggest asset is it's history, tradition and the support it generates through this, to change part of its very fabric for a few quid. You'd surely be devaluing your own 'brand'. When you realise we're getting fuck all for the privilage then you have to wonder what's in it for NUFC? End of the day, he's bought our club as a vehicle to drive Sports Direct and the sooner people get this 'sponsorship' money shit out of their heads the better. We're not getting any money and Sports Direct is here to stay whilst here's here. We're virtually Sports Direct's football club. He's eroding our biggest strength and our pride and any benefits of this will be felt by Sports Direct and not NUFC. I support Newcastle United, not Sports Direct. They're not a mere sponsor in the background, they are creeping, no, actually barging into our identity. I hate it and despair at any positive noises about this move. In fact I despair just as much of the shrug of shoulders some give. This matters.

Yes, we'd welcome it, no, it's not going to happen.

@ Tom

Why not talk about major trophies instead. One ownership failed and one has failed so far. I know which is most likely to win one. Does this involve CT's time machine btw? "Shit!! Where did I leave that Panama?! Was it in ancient Mesapotamia last friday or five weeks ago in the South Shields Riveria?"

Rangers regularly averaged 15 and 16000. Both clubs never averaged over 40,000 in their history till the mid 90's neither, historically we piss on them support wise, and in my eyes by far we will always be bigger than the two of them. Both fickle supports surrounded by mistruths and myths, most of their support don't even realise the truth, especially the younger ones. We got our best ever average, 56,000 in the 2nd division in 1948. Rangers won the title in the same year with half of that, 28,000. I think Celtic's record is even worse to be honest. Rangers had only three 40K plus averages in their history before 1993, one 40K and two 44K's. Celtic had none! Just goes to show how many gloryhunters have jumped on their bandwagon these last twenty years, their crowds considering they were winning titles or pushing for titles is amazingly average to poor especially when you hear the shite spouted by any of their fans or media people who haven't a clue how many they actually used to get!

A pity they never scheduled this work for a matchday. Vandalism by people not worthy of NUFC.

That Hotdog counter under the Gallowgate became a makeshift hospital for me against Boro about 92 in the LC. Me and a kid from work got thrown out of the match for trying to go climb over the grass on the gallowgate steps to get with the rest of our crowd who were in the scoreboard, (normally the police were alright but this was a ticket match and it was different for some reason). Anyway, as we'd paid for our tickets we didn't see why we should miss out, and as we were both a bit pissed we kept toot and when the coast was clear I gave my mate a bunk up the wall in Bootboy alley and he climbed the lowest part of the Gallowgate wall, he then pulled me up and we both cut our hands to bits on the barbed wire/embedded green glass. We got over and a couple of the old dears in the hotdog counter gave us a load of paper napkins to stem the blood. You don't get them experiences at a match, now mind.

This sounds very close to you suggesting bankruptcy is an acceptable part of football? I think LM is just saying that so far the evidence is they'll continue to exist in some form or another, doesn't look like he's saying it's right tbf.

If a supermaket buys Rangers it'll more than likely be ASDA rather than Morrisons as I've more than once heard them say they're usually 'happy to help'.

Do you know the season we finished 3rd in the old 2nd division, (1983-84), we averaged 29,811? (It was the 3rd best in the country). Did you also know in the same year Rangers won the Scottish title and Celtic were runners up? Rangers averaged 21,996 as Champions and their mates got 18,390. Just saying, like.

Most points have been answered as far as Ajax Andy is concerned, all I'll add is you don't always appreciate the freedom to move about the ground at will, to decide to go or not to go on the day itself, and there was the craic which was always great. Most games I'd be in the corner but would sometimes vary and we'd go elsewhere, even when you were in the Scoreboard/corner wherever you could move to or away from any banter. There was the daft rituals and the the to and thro between our own fans as away fans were usually low on numbers. The 'In the seats' song would be met with derision by the East Stand or they'd start the 'United' chant off in reply. The Corner would wait for the response.......If it was muted the East Stand would get 'Get your flasks out for the lads' thrown at them, now and then a bloke would stand up in the ES and try and start it off himself, he was skinny and had a beard, everytime he did it the Gallowgate would shout, 'Kenny Everett, is a wanker, is a wanker' and he'd stand up offering the entire corner on, it was all good banter, a good few years later I bumped into 'Kenny' at work and we had a bit of a laugh when I asked if he was him. Also as a young'un standing next to the big lads and hearing their patter was great, someone would always have a toxic arse and all you'd hear was, 'Fucking hell! Whose that dorty bastard!?" etc. Remember a bloke (Norman I think he was called), older than us, only ever remember seeing him in the relegation season of 88-89, anyway, he would get on the barriers in the corner and start the singing off, but his favourite was, 'If you're proud to be a Geordie clap your hands'. Thing was he started adapting it, so it would change from 'clap your hands' to 'be a teapot/be a tree' etc and everyone would do the actions, the best one was 'be Dierdre Barlow' cue a thousand or so supporters putting their hands to their faces shouting 'Tracey! Tracey'. Gangs of kids would go together, it was just a more free time, no mobile phones and crap attention spans. It was definitely better. Sack the board was a popular song too, like!

What becomes of the broken hearted?

I wonder who the inspiration is for the high level of Mongs on here, lately?

Sorry to hear that, MF. All you can do is be there for your lass, mate. She wont think you're useless when she's having a cry and she needs you to console her.