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My sister raved on about these but despite being 36 she's a sucker for hype and whatever is deemed cool, probably the fact she's a mature student, these, fucking Lilly Allen whatever is out at the time. It's actually quite funny hearing her 'singing' Lilly Allens non-songs. Radio 1 is like listening to a foreign channel, I just don't understand the shit they come out with.

The Style Council, didn't like them as a kid but grew to love some of their tracks over the last few years. I always liked the Eurythmics but appreciate some of their songs far more now as well as Annie's solo stuff.

Hands up those who expected CT to say Wham/George Michael.

Well that's a far better dream than mine was! And also good to read.

Once, only once, I had this dream that I owned a cat. The cat had somehow managed to get stabbed or cut open in the stomach. The poor cat was lying and dying. All I could do was to cuddle it and tell it I loved it. Dreams are mental and in the middle of the dream the cat was basically a representation of my oldest daughter. I was going through a difficult time with her Mother at the time. So vivid was this dream that I actually awoke and cried like a bairn. It was a one off and to this day is by far and away the worst dream I've ever had. Awful. This isn't an attempt to belittle Mr Cusack's cat or his feelings but as I'm drunk it reminded me of this worst dream ever. I feel for you, 'Gene'.

Look, I know you and McFaul have had your disagreements but for you to say our attendences were abysmal shows your knowledge of our history up to be quite truthful. I'm a bloke who finds people as they meet them. Scousers? Despite some crap on here I've met far more good than bad, whether red or blue. This is actual life experience and not based on the gloryhunters but actual scousers. For all your 'reasonable' attitude you've shown you haven't the fucking slightest idea whatsoever out the history of NUFC, hey! not your fault, it's none of your business, just don't come the daft cunt with your 'abysmal' attendances shit. I'd love to meet you, have a pint and go into history of football with you as apart from your beloved LFC I think you'd be floundering, (if your NUFC knowledge is anything to go by). Abysmal? You utter fucking loon. Your own Shanks knew what my club was about when he told his protege that if he got it right this was one of the biggest clubs he'd be at. Fucking Everton averaged a staggering 19,000 mid table the year before Sharp, Gray, Reid et al got them the title. To put that into perspective, the team that finished third in the 2nd division managed just under 30,000 which was a few hundred less than the club that won the league, league cup and fucking holy grail of the European cup! I wonder who that club was????!!!! I tell you what mate, send me a PM and we'll have a chat as I struggle to imagine a true scouser belittling our standing in history. Yes we've been shit, but to be called abysmal and have our attendances and stature mocked? Fuck right off! I'm guessing your Dad might be no longer longer with us? With all respect to him, the team that won the league were the best, ok, no arguments. However, we're not talking about 'top 40' records or chas and dave. Were talking about an era when finals had kids/football fans swarming round to the local picture house to watch 'Pathe news' and see the final. My old man had a gran, ( who hated him) that had one of the only tellies in 1952 Byker. Every kid wanted to see the cup final, it had kudos, it's as simple as that. It was the THE main thing to win, like it or not.

Anyway, I'm out for a drink and some scran with Mrs HMHM so play nice, now!

To only ascribe the league titles of us and Everton is a bit misleading mate. When we won our three cups in the fifties we were in with a good shout of the title. We virtually rested more than half our side for the last eight games so important was the cup back then nationally. I think we won one of those games if that. Imagine a club doing that now? It wouldn't happen obviously which tells you the esteem of the cup then so to demean our cup wins gets my back up a bit to be honest, mate.

The only point I'd make about Everton is I have met a few scousers on my travels and I'd say about 60% were Evertonians. Whilst I can't remember meeting any Blues who weren't scousers the same can't be said about Liverpool for obvious reasons.

Drove past an old dear lying on the pavement round the corner, someone else saw too and stopped as well, got an ambulance and think she's ok but all she was bothered about was missing her appointment at the Hairdressers!

I'm not here to knock Everton but if you're saying there is a difference and it's trophies won, 15 and consistent attendances then how is that much different to our trophies of 11 and our attendances that have been at least as good most years and quite often better?

There was a spell in the late eighties/early nineties where quite a few Scots would come to our games including aways as well. No idea why as we weren't even in the 1st Division at the time.

Anyway, think it's fair to say posters on here who aren't OOTers wont have the same gripes with them as the locals will like Ant/ewerk for example which is natural enough. I had an uncle from N. Ireland who was a glory hunting NUFC fan, (he supported us as a boy in the days of the cup wins) and he hated Man U but was oblivious to the Mackems as he simply didn't come across many and when he did they were Irish Mackems who didn't give a fuck about NUFC either.

Sadly for them, the last time they were a big hitter was many, many years ago, we've also had some pretty lean times but have been 'relevant' nationally, (and for a spell internationally), in a way they just haven't been in my life time ever. Everyones proud of their club so in a way it explains some of the bitterness to be fair.

Strange one this. When I was younger Mags always took the aggressive attitude in derby encounters and filtered into the home sections of Roker in an open way I've never seen them do at SJP ever. Also remember them being genuinely outraged at the Mags who went down for their game v Gillingham. I always get the impression they were/are about twenty years behind the times so in those days of the Gillingham game they were still metaphorically waving their rattles and still trying to be Geordies, whilst now when there's not as much aggravation around and football is more sanitised they're just getting into the 80's mode and are far more anti-NUFC than they were then. That and all the beatings they've had from us and our rise under KK and SBR just killed them. Funny enough, the better ones I've met tend to be die-hards who without exception know more about our players than I do about theirs. I reckon I could walk past half their squad completely oblivious. They are more bitter now than they've ever been, I know that much. P.S. A quick mention to their 'formed in 1992/Barcelona of the North' shite. The '92 slur is very ironic as in the nineties their crowds more than doubled, they moved stadium, they got themselves a new crest, (similar style to ours btw ) and even voted on a new nickname. Exactly who is it that was newly formed again, Mackems? 'Barcelona of the North'. A typical bit of bullshit claptrap from our Tory loving ex Chairman most certainly not taking seriously by most Mags I know/knew. Personally pissed me off that when signings dried up we'd spent money so fucking Douglas Hall could mix with racing car drivers in Le Mons or wherever and have his pic took sloping across a car with our crest on it. Basically, their idea that we as a support thought were like Barcelona shows their almost mental illness when it comes to NUFC. And we're deluded?

Always wondered why they held on with tears in their eyes.

I think they made, (Mak em), the shell so to speak and we took, (tak em), and did all the important technical stuff. Apparently Mackems weren't blacklisted on Tyneside as Geordies were on Wearside.

Got to be pleased Demba's still here as I still think there's only so many good players we can get 'on the cheap' and £7M whilst a profit would have us in fingers crossed mode with his replacement. It's a shitter that we're without them again for their African cup and it's odds on they'll progress further than last time. Still need another striker though. We'll have to see whether any other club fancies paying Ashley's premium on any other of our top men.

Nah just pulling your plonker. Paddocklad's a smashing lad, a die hard and really isn't anyone's lapdog. Just thought I'd mention it as your comment seemed a bit strange.

Ever tried changing your name to 'purgatory' instead?

I found that Leazes lap dog comment a bit comical and turtle shite as it happens. Didn't quite agree with your Ba argument though, mate although I get the point I think you were making.

I've never spoken to a mackem in my life. (as I was saying to my toontastic homies just the other day).

For all the 'football' stick CT gets I'd agree with him and favour Ferguson over Sammy as the better prospect out the two. It's a shame the kid had a bad injury in the last pre-season after getting to the fringes of our side. In the past when we've had a good batch of players come through it's usually been when we've been shite, had loads of injuries and no money to spend so it was easier for the kids to get a game as our options were limited. If we get three or so getting real game time through the cup competitions we'll have done ok. It really is their chance to grow and they have to take it. Regarding Gosling, never seen him play for Everton and he was meant to be a good prospect and they were a bit miffed to lose him, thing is we bought him after he'd been injured for a while and I think we basically took a punt on a clause in his contract and hoped for the best. The kid isn't up to it anymore at this level if he ever was.

After finding a note from Wor lass on the TV saying 'It's not working, I'm leaving.' I turned the power off and fuck me, you guessed it, it was perfectly fine. That's women for you.

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