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Fresh doubts over Hitler's death after tests on bullet hole skull reveal it belonged to a woman Adolf Hitler may not have shot himself dead and perhaps did not even die in his bunker, it emerged yesterday. A skull fragment believed for decades to be the Nazi leader’s has turned out to be that of a woman under 40 after DNA analysis. Scientists and historians had long thought it to be conclusive proof that Hitler shot himself in the head after taking a cyanide pill on 30 April 1945 rather than face the ignominy of capture. The piece of skull - complete with bullet hole - had been taken from outside the Fuhrer’s bunker by the Russian Army and preserved by Soviet intelligence. Now the story of Hitler’s death will have to rewritten as a mystery - and conspiracy theorists are likely to latch on to the possibility that he may not have died in the bunker at all. The traditional story is that Hitler committed suicide with Eva Braun as the Russians bombarded Berlin. Although some historians doubted he shot himself and suggested it was Nazi propaganda to make him a hero, the hole in the skull fragment seemed to settle the argument when it was put on display in Moscow in 2000. But DNA analysis has now been performed on the bone by American researchers. Where is he? The skull the Soviets found in 1946 is not Adolf Hitler's, tests show 'We know the skull corresponds to a woman between the ages of 20 and 40,' said University of Connecticut archeologist Nick Bellantoni. 'The bone seemed very thin; male bone tends to be more robust. And the sutures where the skull plates come together seemed to correspond to someone under 40.' Hitler was 56 in April 1945. Mr Bellantoni flew to Moscow to take DNA swabs at the State Archive and was also shown the bloodstained remains of the bunker sofa on which Hitler and Braun were believed to have killed themselves. 'I had the reference photos the Soviets took of the sofa in 1945 and I was seeing the exact same stains on the fragments of wood and fabric in front of me, so I knew I was working with the real thing,' he said. His astonishing results have been broadcast in the U.S. in a History Channel documentary titled Hitler's Escape. Is it hers? Eva Braun died aged 33 and the skull was from a woman under 40 According to witnesses, the bodies of Hitler and Braun were wrapped in blankets and carried to the garden just outside the bunker, placed in a bomb crater, doused with petrol and set ablaze. In May 1945 a Russian forensics team dug up what was presumed to be the dictator’s body. Part of the skull was missing, apparently the result of the suicide shot. The remaining piece of jaw matched his dental records, according to his captured dental assistants. And there was only one testicle. A year later the missing skull fragment was found on the orders of Stalin, who remained suspicious about Hitler’s fate. Just how and when he died is now shrouded in mystery. Mr Bellantoni said it was unlikely the bone was Braun’s, who was 33. 'There is no report of Eva Braun having shot herself or having been shot afterwards,' he said. 'Many people died near the bunker.' The bunker: Where Hitler and Braun's bodies were said to be burned and buried Unknown to the world, the corpse then believed to be Hitler's was interred in Magdeburg, East Germany. There it remained long after Stalin’s death in 1953. Finally, in 1970, the KGB dug up the corpse, cremated it and secretly scattered the ashes in a river. Only the jawbone (which remains away from public view), the skull fragment and the bloodstained sofa segments were preserved in the deep archives of Soviet intelligence. Mr Bellantoni studied the remains after flying to Moscow to inspect the gruesome Hitler trophies at the State Archive. He was allowed only one hour with the Hitler trove, during which time he applied cotton swabs and took DNA samples. The samples were then flown back to Connecticut. At the university’s centre for applied genetics, Linda Strausbaugh closed her lab for three days to work exclusively on the Hitler project She said: ‘We used the same routines and controls that would have been used in a crime lab.’ To her surprise, a small amount of viable DNA was extracted. She then replicated this through a process known as molecular copying to provide enough material for analysis. ‘We were very lucky to get a reading, despite the limited amount of genetic information,’ she said.

cheers snakey!!

You're not really a fan of the daily mail are you Renton?? heres another one to get you frothing from the mail this morning.. Financial experts last night accused the Prime Minister of misleading the public after he appeared to suggest that a decade-long spending spree could continue beyond the next election. Free personal care for the most needy elderly, free childcare for two-year-olds and a new right to cancer tests within a week were among a string of costly new policies in yesterday’s conference speech. Mr Brown reconfirmed Labour’s pledge to double the international aid budget and pledged to increase spending on child benefit and tax credits every year. Mr Brown was accused of not making a credible plan to improve public finances He also promised that Labour would continue to increase spending on schools, apparently reversing the recent pledge by Schools Secretary Ed Balls to make cuts of £2 billion. But analysts warned that failure to produce a credible plan to improve the public finances could see international investors abandon Britain, driving up the cost of borrowing. Robert Chote, of the independent Institute for Fiscal Studies, said Treasury figures suggested the long-term gap between tax revenues and public spending was £90billion a year. Mr Chote said it was misleading to suggest that the huge hole in the public finances could be closed in a painless way, whichever party wins the coming election. ‘The rhetoric has not matched the arithmetic in spelling out the size of the challenge,’ he said. ‘The question you have to ask about Mr Brown’s speech is whether it is consistent with the figures the Government produced in the Budget. ‘If they want to persist with their policy of halving the deficit in four years then it is going to need tax increases, welfare cuts or cuts in public spending. I don’t think the public yet has any idea what that will mean.’ The Conservatives last night suggested Mr Brown’s spending pledges would cost more than £5billion, with the commitment on schools taking the total to more than £7billion. The Premier identified new savings of just £500million by scrapping childcare vouchers for higher rate taxpayers. Labour insisted most of the new programmes would be funded through savings but there was little detail on how this would work. Experts said many of the schemes would cost more than scheduled.

if i recall, we finished 2nd that year. would still be enough to take us up!!

why?? cos she's asking difficult questions? She? sorry, my bad. i was watching the Beeb interviewer. thats why i was puzzled by your original statement. It was Adam Boulton, basically he was asking questions and not giving him a chance to give his answer without interrupting and spent far too long pushing a TV debate (obviously in Sky's interest). must admit that whilst i'm not Browns biggest fan, i cant stand pushy interviewers. whats the point in asking questions if you wont let the poor bastard get the answers out. sounds like a cunt!!

why?? cos she's asking difficult questions? She? sorry, my bad. i was watching the Beeb interviewer. thats why i was puzzled by your original statement.

why?? cos she's asking difficult questions?

Or, erm, since John Major. How old are you? interesting point, i know he was thatchers boy at one point but her support for him was withdrawn before the leadership contest. but at least there was a leadership contest. he didnt just recieve it like a certain labour prime minister i could mention! sheesh!!

http://www.aegon.co.uk/tennis/game/index.html this is a good un' as well!!

Fuck me!!! win the morra and we go 5 pts clear. I may start believing at that point!! (starts singing "Dont Stop Believing" by Journey at this point)

Nuts deep in her mouth should solve that for ya.

voted nuts deep.......... she'd have to shut up tho... can't stand her Mockney accent!!

Oh ffs, even the Tories were using the line 'Vote Blair, get Brown'. Anyone who didn't realise what was going to happen was obviously too thick to deserve the right to vote. yeah, and Labour were denying it! who do ya believe?? oh, and to clarify, i believed that we'd end up with Brown.

no it wasnt. at no point did Blair say "oh, btw, i'm gonna be handing the reigns over to Gordon after the election". in fact most of the spin was saying that Tony might shaft Brown (ooer missus!!) and stay on as leader. whilst i admit it was 'rumoured' to be a done deal it was never clarified. yeah, 2007 was a great year. shame about whats happened since tho!!

Unelected? How come he's got a seat in parliament then? Do you seriously blame him for the global financial crisis? Honestly, have you thought about it? Wha?? how fuckin old are you Chez? 12?? unelected as in he has no public mandate to be prime minister. phoney blair was labours leader when they won the election. he then gave the premiership to the useless bong eye'd twat. fuckin hell, i havent seen such blatent shit like that since the USSR!! and pray tell me where i blamed him for the global financial crisis? and finally, yes. I have thought about it. obviously a lot more than you! Class, you accuse Chez of being a kid and then go on to use kindergarten insults. I'd like to know where your figures have come from that he's doubled taxes and also an answer to Chez's earlier question, what would have been the likely result of Cameron's proposed actions? Cheers in advance. Btw, in this country you elect MPs who represent their constituency and respective political parties, and not the PM directly, surprised you didn't know that tbh. 1st - i never said he'd doubled taxes. i said they had virtually doubled and that the national debt had gone through the roof. please tell me where i am wrong with this assesment. as you have alluded to, it would be impossible to come up with accurate figures as many of the increases have come from 'indirect' taxes. however, even the most ardent Labour supporter could not deny that the tax burden has risen massively. 2nd - I'm sorry but i failed fortune telling at school so i couldnt possibly give you an accurate assesment of what would have happened under cameron. in fact, nobody could possibly predict that. i could give you a completley inaccurate guess tho if you would prefer?? 3rd - yeah, i'm fully aware that people vote for the MP's who represent the 'local' constituency and not the PM directly. however, the fact remains that many people would not have voted for labour if G.B. had been in charge before the election. they simply fell for blairs spin. 4th - I like debating with you Renton 5th - as for the childish bit, damn right i was. cant stand phoney blair or gordon fuckin brown. i wouldnt believe either of them if they'd told me the sky was blue!! the worst thing that happened in the last 20yrs for me was when john smith died. however i will apologise to Chez! sorry bud!! I think i've covered everything...

To be fair, a lot of people do know about Rubin Kazan. I'm with Tom on this one cos i'd never heard of them either!!

Unelected? How come he's got a seat in parliament then? Do you seriously blame him for the global financial crisis? Honestly, have you thought about it? Wha?? how fuckin old are you Chez? 12?? unelected as in he has no public mandate to be prime minister. phoney blair was labours leader when they won the election. he then gave the premiership to the useless bong eye'd twat. fuckin hell, i havent seen such blatent shit like that since the USSR!! and pray tell me where i blamed him for the global financial crisis? and finally, yes. I have thought about it. obviously a lot more than you!

Gordon Brown is an unelected fuckin useless scotish twat. how the fuck can he preach about the financial health of the nation?? he's the fuckin muppet who's been in control of the purse strings for the past 12(?) yrs and in that time tax's have virtually doubled whilst the national debt has gone through the roof. thats not financial wizardry, it's stupidity!! i'm not going to say the tories would be any better but they certainly would'nt be any worse!

"Aye but if a Paki is born in England, are they Pakistani or English?" CLASS!! does anyone know the answer???

Yup! I'm not quite at the optimistic stage yet but at least i've moved on from suicidal!!

Overkills version of Space Truckin'

this but it'll never happen in the socialist paradise that is the E.U.

Gematria - Slipknot

Bye Lilly!! dont slam the door on the way!

I wouldnt feel short changed at all. all power to him!! (keegan that is)