AgentAxeman

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/1...eert-wilders-uk

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£36!! and it means i can vapourize any alien hecklers!!!!

I wonder how much she (or her management) paid the guy for all this free publicity!

I wonder how much she (or her management) paid the guy for all this free publicity!

yup, we had a street party! with bunting from lampost to lampost!! all the way down the street!!! I got a special coin and everything at school!!!! ah, best memories of the 70's!

Was it not a speedy process though in part caused by the fight brought to her by the unions. They had controlled labour by strike action and took a sort of "and were going to control you" stance with the new Tory goverment. People like scargill hastened what these days would be a much more reasonable process. this

didn't take long for mother teresa to arrive! Does it ever cross your mind that She was democratically elected again and again and again? Or is democracy only important when it suits YOUR agenda. She was universally (well, almost apparently) reviled in the North East though, and was effectively voted in with a block vote from the South East and Midlands who happened to benefit from her 'I'm alright Jack' philosophy. She caused untold misery in the North which we haven't, and probably never will, recover from, and she really couldn't give a shit who she hurt. Her vision of society (or rather, there is no society) was callous in the extreme. I take it you did OK alright under her though. So just for the record if the Tories had not been in power for 18 years, are you saying we would still have thriving coal mines. Steel works, and superb nationalised compaies? They might be thriving, they almost certainly wouldn't be superb. Most of Europe have protected their heavy industry through subsidy I believe. That doesnt work though im afaraid. If Labour had spent the last 10 years pumping billions into all these industries, where would the cash have come from? NHS, Schools etc etc. The same place the French and Germans get their cash from...more taxes. European countries repeatedly out perform the UK in the happiness stakes, we love to holiday there, yet we are a country of euroskeptics. nice place to visit, but i would'nt want to live there!! oh, not to mention favourable exchange rates, sunny climate etc.............

i assume you're talking about selling of the council houses?? i dont know ANYBODY that did'nt make a profit out of that. Err..People who need affordable housing now?? what?, and you're blaming that on Thatcher? Correct me if i'm wrong but didnt the housing price 'boom' happen long after Thatcher had left office?? She reomved almost the entire council stock into private ownership man. That's fine if you profited from it at the time (and acted as a fantastic bribe to the electorate) but what's happened 20 years down the line? would of been fine if the market had'nt been artificially inflated in the late 90's. and who was in power then?..........

mine did (although my mum was part time) so what you're saying is that at least one parent should stay at home and look after the kids?? and that would solve all societies ills would it??

i assume you're talking about selling of the council houses?? i dont know ANYBODY that did'nt make a profit out of that. Err..People who need affordable housing now?? what?, and you're blaming that on Thatcher? Correct me if i'm wrong but didnt the housing price 'boom' happen long after Thatcher had left office??

Certainly not their expense fiddles... Footnote (Again allowed to fester and fester under greedy labour) the wound may have been allowed to fester, but the knifing came from the Tories. yes but it was still allowed to fester!!

well thats a pretty sad story there Fish but do you think kids in the 70's wernt out at 10pm, bored shitless! do you honestly believe things were better in the 70's than 80's? if you do then you wernt there!! strikes every week, power cuts every couple of days, no heating, no lighting, no garbage collection, little food on the shelves?. its no wonder communitys were stronger then as everyone had to rally around and share the meagre posessions they had. personnaly, i think life was better in the 80's/90's. rose tinted specs there bud. looking back wuith a nostalgic eye etc.............. Kids are now just consumers like their parents. well yeah, but its easy to be consumer led when theres actually something there to consume!!

i assume you're talking about selling of the council houses?? i dont know ANYBODY that did'nt make a profit out of that.

well thats a pretty sad story there Fish but do you think kids in the 70's wernt out at 10pm, bored shitless! do you honestly believe things were better in the 70's than 80's? if you do then you wernt there!! strikes every week, power cuts every couple of days, no heating, no lighting, no garbage collection, little food on the shelves?. its no wonder communitys were stronger then as everyone had to rally around and share the meagre posessions they had. personnaly, i think life was better in the 80's/90's. rose tinted specs there bud. looking back wuith a nostalgic eye etc..............

Thatcher was driven by idealogy? so what is Brown driven by? Brown is being pragmatic cos the countrys skint? - Who's been in charge of the purse strings for the last 13 yrs? Stopped pretending to be socialist?? - do you mean they really are? btw, i agree that Thatcher was the biggest bitch under the sun but i dont hate her for it. at the time the country needed someone like that to drag it out of the shite which was th late 60's/70's Did you have a point? If so, what is it please? i was gonna ask you the same question but i probably wouldnt get a sensible answer. you're simply blinded by hate for the woman. theres a point for you to consider! not saying that you may not have a reason for that. just saying that its clouded you're impartiality.

didn't take long for mother teresa to arrive! Does it ever cross your mind that She was democratically elected again and again and again? Or is democracy only important when it suits YOUR agenda. As I recall a majority of people who voted didn't return her party, let alone a majority of the population. The general apathy you see now towards voting was born out of those experiences. Turnout at UK General Elections: 1918-2001 Valid votes as % of electorate Northern United England Wales Scotland Ireland Kingdom *1918 55.7% 65.9% 55.1% 69.5% 57.2% 1922 72.8% 79.4% 70.4% 77.2% 73.0% 1923 71.1% 77.3% 67.9% 76.5% 71.1% 1924 77.4% 80.0% 75.1% 66.7% 77.0% 1929 76.6% 82.4% 73.5% 63.8% 76.3% 1931 76.1% 79.3% 77.4% 74.5% 76.4% 1935 70.7% 76.4% 72.6% 72.0% 71.1% 1945 73.4% 75.7% 69.0% 67.4% 72.8% 1950 84.4% 84.8% 80.9% 77.4% 83.9% 1951 82.7% 84.4% 81.2% 79.9% 82.6% 1955 76.9% 79.6% 75.1% 74.1% 76.8% 1959 78.9% 82.6% 78.1% 65.9% 78.7% 1964 77.0% 80.1% 77.6% 71.7% 77.1% 1966 75.9% 79.0% 76.0% 66.1% 75.8% 1970 71.4% 77.4% 74.1% 76.6% 72.0% 1974 Feb 79.0% 80.0% 79.0% 69.9% 78.8% 1974 Oct 72.6% 76.6% 74.8% 67.7% 72.8% 1979 75.9% 79.4% 76.8% 67.7% 76.0% 1983 72.5% 76.1% 72.7% 72.9% 72.7% 1987 75.4% 78.9% 75.1% 67.0% 75.3% 1992 78.0% 79.7% 75.5% 69.8% 77.7% 1997 71.4% 73.5% 71.3% 67.1% 71.4% 2001 59.2% 61.6% 58.2% 68.0% 59.4% * Figures for Ireland not Northern Ireland Sources: British Electoral Facts: 1832-1999, Parliamentary Research Services House of Commons Library data not really true, infact, i think you'll find that the lowest turnout ever was in 2001. lets see if i can remeber who was in power at that time........................?

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People comparing Brown to Thatcher clearly didn't experience the 1980s, particularly the North East in the 1980s. Actually, I believe Avatar Axeman did, but he's a stupid twat. and you're a complete dick end!!

Thatcher was driven by idealogy? so what is Brown driven by? Brown is being pragmatic cos the countrys skint? - Who's been in charge of the purse strings for the last 13 yrs? Stopped pretending to be socialist?? - do you mean they really are? btw, i agree that Thatcher was the biggest bitch under the sun but i dont hate her for it. at the time the country needed someone like that to drag it out of the shite which was th late 60's/70's

Source?? Torygraph. probably just paper/agent talk. not sure droopy really needs another striker.

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Happy, please dont tell me that people are turning against Jesus incarnate!! I dont think i could handle it!!

Try driving in France, tolls probs cost more than fuel. Aye but they're not imposed simply to cover construction costs, are they? I think they actually fund France, can't really see any other way that country makes money... manufacture of white flags? Nasty!!