AgentAxeman

no bad heed, no pisses in the night, grotty mouth this morning. It was all worth it!!!!!

and there you have the problem. They, incredibly, STILL don't see ....... Anyway, please tell me what is wrong with hoping someone will come in and repeat what we did under the Halls and Shepherd. Don't you ? Do you think Ridsdale made a mess at Leeds? do you think the Leeds supporters didn't enjoy the Champs League run or do you think they would have preferred to be an up and down club like the mackems were ? Thats a ridiculous question and one which Hall and Shepherd bashers frequently ask as a stick to beat them with. I can quite categorically tell you that our period under the Halls and Shepherd beat the crap out of the "settle for mediocrity" eras which preceded it going back to the 1950's. I've said in my post above that they'd have thoroughly enjoyed it...and that we thoroughly enjoyed our shorter less succesful period in the spotlight. Enjoying something and it being wrong are not mutually exclusive. Actually, it's usually the opposite. I enjoy smoking a crack pipe, but the long term health benefits are debateable at best. You seem to think the crack pipe, as well as providing instant and enjoyable thrills, is also one of your five a day. Football is all about striving for success to your utmost capability. If you don't accept this or want it, there is no point in being a football supporter. Ask the mackems and a host of other clubs if they would have swapped their nothing existence to ours for those 15 years. I am telling you now that they would all swap it just like anybody else who has experienced true mediocrity the likes of which we are experiencing now. Would you like new owners to lift the club back to where we were under the Halls and Shepherd or not ? So that's a yes, you do think Ridsdale was a good chairman. Actually, I blame O'Leary too, but give me someone with ambition than someone happy to run a yoyo nothing club anyday. Would you have swapped our 15 years under the Halls and Shepherd for the mackem years under Bob Murray for instance or the vast majority of other premiership clubs who also got absolutely nowhere ? The kind of ambition that led to them dropping to the third division for the first time in their history. I wouldn't have swapped those first five years under Hall and Shepherd for much else. The ten years after that was only rarely even close to that though. You can repeat your 15 year mantra all you like, but as I said earlier, in the ten years Shepherd was at the helm we finished in the bottom half more than we finished in the top half. The fact we kept spending money like we were in the champions league was often more idiocy than ambition. Pathetic that people pick up on a very rare occurence such as happened at Leeds to demean the intentions of the Halls and Shepherd such is their desperation to sling anything possible at them. Point is, getting to the Champions League might be something that only happens once in a lifetime, it certainly hasn't happened to any of us yet, do if you seriously think that existing in the top league at best and not attempting it is better you are very sad and I certainly would never agree that you should settle for it. You will be trying to tell me next that you would swap the last 15 years of a club like Everton or Fulham for ours just because they are currently in the premiership and we are not. What a load of bollocks. Leeds was a rare occurence because most chairmen won't risk the long term future of the club for a brief European trip. It's happening more and more with the likes of Portsmouth and West ham in the shit big style. We never spent a great deal to challenge for ther title and get champions league football. We showed ambition but did so by supporting a proven manager only with the funds we could afford. Up to the point we signed Tino and Shearer the balance sheet was down by less than £13m. That's because we didn't go around throwing stupid money around. We bought well and trebled our money on the likes of Andy Cole. Building an entire squad on £13m and offsetting £7m on one player isn't throwing money at the situation like Shepherd did in later years. I wouldn't swap the challenges for anything less than a succesful campaign ....your belief that such enjoyable times were built on precariously extended purse strings are completely wrong. and you, can't apply hindsight which is easy for anybody to do. Who's using hindsight? The whole point of you bringing up this tired argument is that people (me included) weren't happy with how Shepherd ran the club when he was in charge and you wouldn't hear a word against him. We've been having the same argument for years. indeed. You can't say you would swap it for a successful campaign because nobody knows if it will be successful, how dumb is that ? Besides, the vast majority of clubs would say qualifying for the champs League and playing in europe was successful. You would yourself now wouldn't you You're the one who asked if, in hindsight, i'd swap it for what the mackems had, dipshit! I've never said i wasn't happy with what success we had, however you define it. But I'll repeat myself again and remind you that most of that success was built on a solid foundation of spending within our means at the time, and to a large degree selling players to subsidise new purchases. Gosh, this post is extremely long isnt it?

fuckin hell Craig. What package are you on?? I think this belongs to you

6 cans of carling. bad heed alert!!!

not great. definatley NOT what im supposed to be getting. Fuckin SKY

Nice!!

Nolan needs to score a goal to justify his place in too many games for my liking. Having said that, he has scored some vital goals. It is the injury to Taylor that could cost us we need to replace him and we need another striker to push on and stay in the top 2. With no sales of current first team players, especially Enrique or Guitierez yeah well he (Nolan) might get a game in his prefered position now (deep striker) instead of waddling about the center of the park. every time hes played up front this season he's looked very good. "deep striker" is a strange term, he doesn't have the stamina to actually play in midfield and get up to support the strikers quickly which leaves us a man short in midfield sometimes. At this level though the system works but it or he would not be good enough to make this system work at the higher level. I am disappointed in him to be honest, he isn't as good as I thought he was at Bolton. I think he's got the stamina (and skill) but not the pace, balance or movement to be a box to box player. this is why we struggle so badly against quick passing teams when he's in center mid. imo, the reason he looked so good at bolton was the system they played was built around him and Davies. neither may be world beaters individually but together they were extremely effective.

maybe we could get gay boy Ambrose back. top scorer for them this season iirc?

Nolan needs to score a goal to justify his place in too many games for my liking. Having said that, he has scored some vital goals. It is the injury to Taylor that could cost us we need to replace him and we need another striker to push on and stay in the top 2. With no sales of current first team players, especially Enrique or Guitierez yeah well he (Nolan) might get a game in his prefered position now (deep striker) instead of waddling about the center of the park. every time hes played up front this season he's looked very good.

Ribena

at last, some genuine pace. not so sure about end product tho..........

Dec 21st 2012. The day before my 11th wedding anniversary. maybe there is an upside to this after all........

what Stevie said

aye, that seems to be the main difference for me as well. bit quicker, bit more polished but SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more stable!

Good un'

ah man, come on Tom. Have some optimisim!!

well we 'MAY' win the next derby. you never know!!

"UK terror threat level rated severe Alan Johnson said the threat to the UK from international terrorism has been raised from substantial to severe The threat to the UK from international terrorism has been raised from substantial to severe - meaning an attack is "highly likely". Announcing the move, Home Secretary Alan Johnson said although the threat had increased there was no intelligence to suggest an attack was imminent. But he urged people to be vigilant. He added that it was not specifically linked to the Christmas Day plane bomb plot or any other incident, although it comes ahead of a major counter-terrorism conference in London next week. Mr Johnson said: "The Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC) has... raised the threat to the UK from international terrorism from substantial to severe. This means that a terrorist attack is highly likely, but I should stress that there is no intelligence to suggest that an attack is imminent. "JTAC keeps the threat level under constant review and makes its judgments based on a broad range of factors, including the intent and capabilities of international terrorist groups in the UK and overseas." He added: "The highest security alert is critical and that means an attack is imminent, and we are not at that level." The minister said more measures had been taken to protect aviation since the alleged failed bomb attack on a plane at Detroit at Christmas. "We have a very adept and very focused counter-terrorism facility in this country and people should be reassured by that." The Christmas Day bomb plot has moved the focus of the fight against terror onto the Yemen, where suspect Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab has reportedly claimed he was supplied with explosives. The Home Office said that the change in threat level would not cause "any discernable difference" for members of the public taking flights or going about their normal business. Rather than triggering additional security checks at airports or putting more police onto the streets, the new assessment will send a signal to police and security officials to step up their activities behind the scenes." thoughts people? (source MSN website)

lets hope WBA progress and lose sight of the main goal of this season which is promotion. i'd take that (promotion) anyday over getting to the later stages of the FAC and being raped by a mid table prem table team. sometimes realism is a bitch!

free kick. top corner. 89mins. doesnt celebrate.

source??

strangely enough i'm in the process right now. agree with MonkeysFist tho. it'll have to come off in the summer

Bruce doesn't rate Ferdinand though. i dont think many people do.

I'm confused. if it was obvious from the off what my view was then why did i have to say it?