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14 pages in 2 days. canny good going that!!

to anyone still ignorant of the financial assistance asylum seekers recieve. dont forget this is taken directly out of the public purse by people who contribute absolutely nothing to the tax coffers. tbh, i think this blows the whole notion of "ooh, its just a few unfortunates" out of the water. * According to a Freedom of Information Act request submitted to Middlesbrough Council by local activists, “asylum seekers” in Cleveland get £40 per week for gas and electricity and another £35 per week per person towards food, clothing and toiletries. Failed asylum seekers don’t get money to pay for food but they do get vouchers worth £35 per week. This means that a family of four gets £140 for food and another £40 for gas and electricity, a total of £180 per week. In one year a family of four will get £9360 in direct benefits. This is more than many British families spend on household bills. * NHS treatment will be available for tens of thousands of failed asylum seekers to ensure their human rights are honoured, it has been announced. There are understood to be around 450,000 failed asylum seekers who have not left Britain.

yeah but virtually all of them dont take anything in benefits as they are retired. in fact they are putting into the local economy at no cost to the tax payer. edit: and as LM said they dont try and force there way of life on a resistant public Be honest now. Have you ever been in a situation where a British Muslim has tried to force their way of life on you? Honestly now? yes, i was told that eating bacon was against god (true story).

do they demonstrate on the streets of Spain against the showing of the spanish flag, heckle Spanish troops when they return from a tour of duty, shout for the death of Spanish people and bomb shopping centres because they don't get their own way They can't cause they're not Spanish. so by that logic, people from another country who move here arent British? yet they still can protest? bit confused by that statement Parky

yeah but virtually all of them dont take anything in benefits as they are retired. in fact they are putting into the local economy at no cost to the tax payer. edit: and as LM said they dont try and force there way of life on a resistant public

hmmmmmmmmmmm, again, close but no cigar. whilst i will fully admit there are lazy bastards in this country i dont think its endemic of the population as a whole. I think im right in saying that there was virtually no unemployment in this country before the first mass wave of immigrants arrived in the late 60's. now there is mass unemployment. do the math man! and also, the socialist powers that be effectively pay a lot of claimants to stay on the dole. whereby taking a job would mean a drop in income. the system is properly fucked up. step 1 - create unemployment step 2 - fill gaps in market with imported labour step 3 - keep an underclass who can be relied upon to vote whomever pays the most dole every time repeat ad infin... in essence, i dont think its as cut and dried as you are trying to make it Fish Capitalism was in boom in the 60's. what about the 50's. dont think there was much unemployment then either. point being the unemployment level started to rise in the early 70's

Yeah vote for a party who represent big business because they just hate the cheap labour that immigration brings. Do you seriously suggest repatriation of all immigrants who don't meet your approval mark? The thing is immigration is a red herring perpetuated by the media who are in the pay of big business and the ruling elite. You see LM's hesitation in having a pop at the Govt. It doesn't compute. It's like those in the US who go on about closing the Mexican border...Well LA would come to a standstill without illegal workers. oh I'll have a pop at the govt alright but at the end of the day, even if they thought it was best for the country, the people of the country ie particularly the do gooders, would not vote them in or allow them to enforce strict immigration levels. Whatever argument you can put forward, fact is the population is growing and taking aside all the cultural changes which are being allowed to happen the economic dangers are also obvious. So why is ovt hell bent on this policy? NWO perhaps parky?

hmmmmmmmmmmm, again, close but no cigar. whilst i will fully admit there are lazy bastards in this country i dont think its endemic of the population as a whole. I think im right in saying that there was virtually no unemployment in this country before the first mass wave of immigrants arrived in the late 60's. now there is mass unemployment. do the math man! and also, the socialist powers that be effectively pay a lot of claimants to stay on the dole. whereby taking a job would mean a drop in income. the system is properly fucked up. step 1 - create unemployment step 2 - fill gaps in market with imported labour step 3 - keep an underclass who can be relied upon to vote whomever pays the most dole every time repeat ad infin... in essence, i dont think its as cut and dried as you are trying to make it Fish

There's about 200,000 non Brits in receipt of state benefits in total. 6.7 million foreigners are resident. So under 3% of immigrants are 'benefit scrounges'. The Uk population is over 61 million so about 55 million are British. 6 million of those are on benefits which is 11% If anything immigrants are covering benefits for British residents at a far higher rate than Brits are paying foreigners benefits. source for these figures please cos i cant believe that only 200000 immigrants (legal and illegal) are claiming benefits. maybe 200000 in london perhaps but countrywide? extremely skeptical. 199,667 non-British citizens in receipt of state benefits House of Lords debate The number of people from overseas living in the UK reached a record high of 6.7 million last year BBC The total number of people claiming benefits in the UK has been forecast to rise to more than 6 million when official figures are published later this month, according to the Conservative think-tank Policy Exchange. The latest official figures, published in February, showed that the total was 5.8 million. The Independent hmmmmmm, not quite. firstly these figures are 12 months old. in the meantime weve gone through the worst recession this country has ever had which means they'll have been an awful lot of job losses, hence more on benefits. secondly, it only discribes non british, ie people who dont hold a british passport, not immigrants. thirdly, unless im mistaken, it doesnt take into account the arrivals from the eu? such a defragmented approach to reporting stats is bound to cause confusion. 2 of them are from within the last 5 months. one is 11 months old. If you can get more recent figures. I'll bow down to them. Given that most immigrants are skilled workers allowed in to fill a jobs gap it's unlikely that they've seen more lay-offs than the British population. Those foreigners that have lost work (like the polish losing out on building work) tend to go home, while job-losses for British citizens can only increase the number of British benefit claimants and make my case even more strongly. it still doesnt change the fact that if the immigrants wernt here in the 1st place thered be more jobs for the indiginous peoples of this land. ergo, less british people on benefits. oooh, what a racist comment i hear you all say. i say its not racism but realism and common sense

There's about 200,000 non Brits in receipt of state benefits in total. 6.7 million foreigners are resident. So under 3% of immigrants are 'benefit scrounges'. The Uk population is over 61 million so about 55 million are British. 6 million of those are on benefits which is 11% If anything immigrants are covering benefits for British residents at a far higher rate than Brits are paying foreigners benefits. source for these figures please cos i cant believe that only 200000 immigrants (legal and illegal) are claiming benefits. maybe 200000 in london perhaps but countrywide? extremely skeptical. 199,667 non-British citizens in receipt of state benefits House of Lords debate The number of people from overseas living in the UK reached a record high of 6.7 million last year BBC The total number of people claiming benefits in the UK has been forecast to rise to more than 6 million when official figures are published later this month, according to the Conservative think-tank Policy Exchange. The latest official figures, published in February, showed that the total was 5.8 million. The Independent hmmmmmm, not quite. firstly these figures are 12 months old. in the meantime weve gone through the worst recession this country has ever had which means they'll have been an awful lot of job losses, hence more on benefits. secondly, it only discribes non british, ie people who dont hold a british passport, not immigrants. thirdly, unless im mistaken, it doesnt take into account the arrivals from the eu? such a defragmented approach to reporting stats is bound to cause confusion.

There's about 200,000 non Brits in receipt of state benefits in total. 6.7 million foreigners are resident. So under 3% of immigrants are 'benefit scrounges'. The Uk population is over 61 million so about 55 million are British. 6 million of those are on benefits which is 11% If anything immigrants are covering benefits for British residents at a far higher rate than Brits are paying foreigners benefits. source for these figures please cos i cant believe that only 200000 immigrants (legal and illegal) are claiming benefits. maybe 200000 in london perhaps but countrywide? extremely skeptical.

Ashleys not our chairman. Dekka is. He's not like. Officially Dekka is, but we know he's a puppet. Officially he's MD, isn't he? just checked. dekka is MD not chairman.

I dont know whether to believe this or not................. certainly answers a lot of questions i guess............. but most conspiracy theories do.................... I'm torn....................

Nor do the billions of muslims around the globe support Al Qaeda. I dont blame them either for supporting al qaeda. however i will strive to make sure that they dont carry the fight to us. Edit: and if that means they cant come here or should be kicked out then so be it They DON'T support them let alone join the fight. i think i may have misunderstood your post Happy. doesnt change my feelings towards those who do support al queerer or whatever its called. you know, like the fucka's who preach outside certain mosques telling all who'll listen that they should kill the 'infidel'. I dont know of any COE vicars or priests or whatever they call themselves nowadays who still preach the whole fire & brimstone version of the bible outside of their places of worship.

Nor do the billions of muslims around the globe support Al Qaeda. I dont blame them either for supporting al qaeda. however i will strive to make sure that they dont carry the fight to us. Edit: and if that means they cant come here or should be kicked out then so be it

Ashleys not our chairman. Dekka is. IF this goes through along with the other signings weve made i would consider this to be a sucessful transfer window.

totally agree, however, thanks to the many lies and falsehoods ive been fed for the last 13 yrs i tend to treat such figures with extreme skepticism. Parky esque some would say!! fuckin hell, ive just looked out of the window. its a fuckin whiteout atm!! Then why did you use the one in seven stat on prison numbers? I think what you mean is treat the figures that don't conform to your preconceptions with skepticism while those that enforce them you deem trustworthy and pertinent to the debate. ha, good point. but i didnt get those figures from the government so my argument remains true. i got that particular figure from a well respected daily newspaper iirc

totally agree, however, thanks to the many lies and falsehoods ive been fed for the last 13 yrs i tend to treat such figures with extreme skepticism. Parky esque some would say!! fuckin hell, ive just looked out of the window. its a fuckin whiteout atm!! The long term programme of most western countries is for more immigration. judging by what ive seen so far i can well believe it

totally agree, however, thanks to the many lies and falsehoods ive been fed for the last 13 yrs i tend to treat such figures with extreme skepticism. Parky esque some would say!! fuckin hell, ive just looked out of the window. its a fuckin whiteout atm!!

I'd be interested in a link to that study. I'll gladly admit I'm wrong but I'd guess it's bullshit. Although it is difficult to know how many people reside in the UK illegally, a Home Office study released in March 2005 estimated a population of between 310,000 and 570,000 ... They suggest the Home Office has underestimated the numbers of unauthorised migrants by between 15,000 and 85,000. So at the most, there's about 650,000 illegals in the UK. That's the total. The Office for national statistics says that about 600,000 immigrants legally come to the UK every year. Rather than legals being a drop in the ocean compared to illegals, it's clearly the exact opposite and Illegals are dwarfed by legals. Moving on, I agree, illegal immigration is a problem. How would you like to see the policy towards it shift. Most illegals try to evade capture, but let's say you could identify them all. What would you do with them. Before you answer, remember.... ippr has estimated that if the Government made current illegal migrants legal (regularised) they would pay well in excess of £1bn in tax per year. ippr has also estimated that removing all illegal (irregular) migrants in the UK could cost up to twelve billion pounds and take around twenty five years. http://www.ippr.org/pressreleases/?id=3483 nice numbers Happy, but as a retort, when did this current government ever get its figures right?

I'm not sure b follows a here. Do we play this eu because CH wants to or because it gets the best from th resources available? I am sure you'd see more from Jonas if he played alongside a string puller. Lovelyhands would benefit from someone providing through balls and. The back five would benefit from the seeing the possesion they've won being put to good use for a change. to answer the 1st question a bit of both. yes its the way CH wants us to play and yes it gets the best from the available resources. with the forwards we have atm (shola, carroll, ranger) a creative type could play 10 world class balls through every match and they would never get on the end of them. take your point about lovelyhands tho and as i said earlier maybe routledge. not sure about jonas tho as i believe he plays in his own little world most of the time.

I dont think theres much point in signing a creative midfielder. to accomadate a creative type of player we would have to have a completley different set of forwards as our forwards movement is shit (apart from maybe Routledge) and therefore negates the usefulness of said creative player. its fairly obvious to me how hughton wants to play and creativity doesnt come into it.