AgentAxeman

show me where I have ever mentioned "darker skin". Most atrocities seem to be committed by such, but I'm sure you will say it's just a co-incidence. Your words not mine. I'm sure you know the UK has suffered far more from 'white' terrorism than 'dark skinned'. maybe in the past but not in the here and now.

opinions? I for one would welcome him till the end of the season. Albion and Newcastle in Koumas duel Albion’s hopes of landing loan players before the weekend look to be receding as Newcastle emerged as potential rivals for Jason Koumas’ signature. The Baggies have so far failed to persuade Premier League clubs to loan out their top targets, despite concerted efforts to help head coach Roberto Di Matteo cope with his lengthy injury list. Chances of deals being completed before the televised visit to Ashton Gate are now in the balance, with reports on Tyneside suggesting leaders Newcastle have joined the Baggies in expressing an interest in Koumas. The club are still talking to Wigan about a possible loan for the former Hawthorns midfielder, although there are no indications that a deal is imminent. Koumas is one man definitely available, after Latics boss Roberto Martinez confirmed the club are willing to let the former Wales international leave. But there are now strong reports they could go head-to-head with the Magpies again, just weeks after the clubs battled unsuccessfully for Victor Moses. http://www.expressandstar.com/2010/02/18/a...tle-for-koumas/

Always have done as that's how I was taught - it seemed obvious to me. I was not taught it in my lessons but the last place I used to work my Boss always left the van in gear and I just picked up the habit. Nearly hit the side of the building the first time though as I never checked the stick. Leading on from that though I've always turned the ignition on with the clutch pressed. If you drive a Golf, like Snakey's missus does, you can't start the car without the clutch pressed. Yes you can. You cant start a Dodge Viper without the clutch in. Or with a straight face. yer right there!! the clutch is well heavy!!

Always have done as that's how I was taught - it seemed obvious to me. I was not taught it in my lessons but the last place I used to work my Boss always left the van in gear and I just picked up the habit. Nearly hit the side of the building the first time though as I never checked the stick. Leading on from that though I've always turned the ignition on with the clutch pressed. If you drive a Golf, like Snakey's missus does, you can't start the car without the clutch pressed. Yes you can. You cant start a Dodge Viper without the clutch in.

me too

BNP votes to allow black members The BNP is to scrap its whites-only membership policy The British National Party has voted to approve changes to its constitution that would allow black and Asian people to become members, a party spokesman said. The decision came after the far-right party held an extraordinary general meeting at a secret location in Essex, a party spokesman said. It was arranged after the Central London County Court told the BNP to amend its constitution to comply with race relations laws or face legal action by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. Party leader Nick Griffin told Sky News he expected a "trickle, rather than a flood" of applications from black and Asian people. He said: "Anyone can be a member of this party. We are happy to accept anyone as a member providing they agree with us that this country should remain fundamentally British." The party's democratic credentials were questioned by a BBC reporter who told Mr Griffin he had seen a journalist being "bundled out" of the meeting. The BNP leader said the Times newspaper, where the reporter works, had lied about the party. He said: "Because he is from The Times, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, and it lies and it lies and it lies about this party. So he was told 'we're sorry, you told one lie too many', the Times, so we are not allowing anyone from the Times in - kindly leave. He refused to leave when he was asked so he had to be encouraged to leave." The BBC reporter asked if he would be removed if he said the wrong thing. Mr Griffin replied: "If you utter some outrageous lie about me... you won't be welcome again." A spokesman for News International confirmed one of their reporters had been removed from the meeting.

Did you get your leg over?

They'll be over-the-moon I'm sure http://www.nationalbpa.com/ Proper racist bastards!!

took wor lass to Matfen hall for a lovely meal and a dorty night away from the bairns. expensive but really good!!

Happy Birthday KK

why? whats wrong with it.......

1970 On your birthdate the No. 1 single was Dave Edmunds - "I Hear You Knockin'" 1971 On your 1st birthday Benny Hill - "Ernie (The Fastest Milkman In The West)" 1972 On your 2nd birthday Little Jimmy Osmond - "Long Haired Lover From Liverpool" 1973 On your 3rd birthday Slade - "Merry Xmas Everybody" 1974 On your 4th birthday Mud - "Lonely This Christmas" 1975 On your 5th birthday Queen - "Bohemian Rhapsody" 1976 On your 6th birthday Johnny Mathis - "When A Child Is Born" 1977 On your 7th birthday Wings - "Mull Of Kintyre/Girls' School" 1978 On your 8th birthday Boney M - "Mary's Boy Child-Oh My Lord" 1979 On your 9th birthday Pink Floyd - "Another Brick In The Wall" 1980 On your 10th birthday St Winifred's School Choir - "There's No-one Quite Like Grandma" 1981 On your 11th birthday The Human League - "Don't You Want Me" 1982 On your 12th birthday Renee & Renato - "Save Your Love" 1983 On your 13th birthday The Flying Pickets - "Only You" 1984 On your 14th birthday Band Aid - "Do They Know It's Christmas?" 1985 On your 15th birthday Shakin' Stevens - "Merry Christmas Everyone" 1986 On your 16th birthday Jackie Wilson - "Reet Petite" 1987 On your 17th birthday The Pet Shop Boys - "Always On My Mind" 1988 On your 18th birthday Cliff Richard - "Mistletoe & Wine" 1989 On your 19th birthday Band Aid II - "Do They Know It's Christmas?" 1990 On your 20th birthday Cliff Richard - "Saviours' Day" 1991 On your 21st birthday Queen - "Bohemian Rhapsody / These Are The Days Of Our Lives" 1992 On your 22nd birthday Whitney Houston - "I Will Always Love You" 1993 On your 23rd birthday Mr Blobby - "Mr Blobby" 1994 On your 24th birthday East 17 - "Stay Another Day" 1995 On your 25th birthday Michael Jackson - "Earth Song" 1996 On your 26th birthday Spice Girls - "2 Become 1" 1997 On your 27th birthday Spice Girls - "Too Much" 1998 On your 28th birthday The Spice Girls - "Goodbye" 1999 On your 29th birthday Westlife - "I Have A Dream / Seasons In The Sun" 2000 On your 30th birthday Bob The Builder - "Can We Fix It?" 2001 On your 31st birthday Robbie Williams & Nicole Kidman - "Somethin' Stupid" 2002 On your 32nd birthday Girls Aloud - "Sound Of The Underground" 2003 On your 33rd birthday Michael Andrews featuring Gary Jules - "Mad World" 2004 On your 34th birthday Band Aid 20 - "Do They Know It's Christmas?" 2005 On your 35th birthday Shayne Ward - "That's my Goal" 2006 On your 36th birthday Leona Lewis - "A Moment Like This" 2007 On your 37th birthday Leon Jackson - "When You Believe" 2008 On your 38th birthday Alexandra Burke - "Hallelujah" 2009 On your 39th birthday Rage Against The Machine - "Killing In The Name" Some proper trash on that list especially in the last 10 years but a couple of decent tunes aswell. comes from being a christmas baby i suppose!

In the light of the recent attempt to bring down a commercial aircraft by terrorists the English have raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies all but ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to a "Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588 when threatened by the Spanish Armada. The Scots raised their threat level from "P1ssed Off" to "Let's get the Bast*rds" They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years. The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide". The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France 's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability. It's not only the French who are on a heightened level of alert. Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout loudly and excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides." The Germans also increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose". Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual, and the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels. The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy. Americans meanwhile and as usual are carrying out pre-emptive strikes, on all of their allies …. just in case.

for you Happy, in furtherance to your question... For wealthy countries, such as the UK, the cost of being a member of the EU is greater than the benefits they get out. The best estimates put the annual net cost to the UK of EU membership in the region of £40.5 billion. Much of this money pays for the outdated and wasteful Common Agricultural Policy (CAP), while a sizeable amount goes towards the structural funds which transfer money to poorer areas of the EU. The costs of EU membership could be holding back faster developing countries, particularly the UK, which has a more global economy than many member states. For seven out of the last ten years, EU GDP growth has been lower than that of the USA. This is largely the effect of EU regulation making it less easy to do business. In 2006, the EU's Enterprise and Industry Commissioner, Gunter Verheugen, estimated the cost of EU regulation to be 600bn euro per annum. This is the equivalent of the EU losing the entire output of a medium-sized country like the Netherlands every year! This situation becomes more concerning when one considers how hard it is to reform the way that the EU spends money. Several attempts to reform the CAP have failed to reduce its cost substantially, while the 2005 budget negotiations also failed to agree to a slimmed-down budget. This is because it is almost impossible to reach an agreement between 27 countries. At present, EU leaders are hoping to negotiate a reform for the next budget cycle, starting in 2013.

well i suppose that depends on your definition of on the whole. on the whole the richer powers have been way too greedy (self interested) and this has forced the current economic imbalance. if youre referring to the overall growth of the euro then i suppose that yes in a way it has been succesful, in the same way most currencies were in the boom years and look what happensed then. imo, its sucess is built on a house of straw with no substance. Thinking the unthinkable Stephanie Flanders | 13:32 UK time, Thursday, 11 February 2010 All eyes are on Brussels, as we await more details of the "co-ordinated measures" on offer to help Greece. There's just one problem. Even a bail-out - if that is what it turns out to be - won't solve the basic problem facing Greece, or the eurozone. Let me explain. Greece has two big problems: a debt problem and a competitiveness one. A "bail-out" won't solve either - at least, not a bail-out that any self-respecting German would be willing to consider. We may get a bit more clarity today on the support that Germany and others are planning to offer Greece. More likely, as I said yesterday, we will have to wait until the next week's meeting of European finance ministers. That is what today's statement suggests. But we can be fairly sure that whatever deal is struck, it will not make Greece's debt problems go away. The best that Greece can expect from its eurozone partners is a promise to underwrite Greek debt, or some form of bilateral loan to tide Greece over. The first would cut the risk premium on Greek debt and make it easier to service. The second would give them cash to get them through the next few months, when nearly 10% of their debt comes up to maturity. But neither would do much to lower the stock of debt hanging over the economy. Or lessen the need for swingeing cuts in public services and tax rises over the next few years. Indeed, if Berlin has anything to do with it (and we know it will) - Mr Papandreou's government could come out of this with an even tougher schedule for cutting the deficit than it had before. So, it won't make the debt problem go away. It probably won't make the burdens on the Greek government - or its people - that much easier. It just goes from being 'impossible" to merely "intolerable". It goes without saying that it won't solve Greece's competitiveness problem either. I promised a post today on the long-term structural problem underlying this eurozone crisis. Happily - or perhaps unhappily - Martin Wolf beat me to it, in a superb column in yesterday's FT. As he says: "So long as the European Central Bank tolerates weak demand in the eurozone as a whole and core countries, above all Germany, continue to run vast trade surpluses, it will be nigh on impossible for weaker members to escape from their insolvency traps. Theirs is not a problem that can be resolved by fiscal austerity alone. They need a huge improvement in external demand for their output." As I showed in my piece for yesterday's BBC News at Ten, it's no accident that the countries in the firing line in this crisis are also the ones whose competitiveness has deteriorated the fastest within the eurozone since the single currency began. This chart tells the story, from Janet Henry at HSBC. HSBC chart German unit labour costs have barely budged since 2000, and German inflation has been lower than the eurozone average. As a result their exports have gradually become more and more competitive in world markets. Whereas Greece, Spain, Portugal and the rest have had relatively higher inflation, faster wage growth, and thus growing unit labour costs - and falling competitiveness. This is why there is no comfortable route of this for the Pigs (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain) - though for some the path is tougher than others. As I've said many times in the context of the UK, it's tricky to cut borrowing as a share of GDP when your GDP is itself shrinking or stagnant. It is more or less unthinkable that Greece would manage to do this and achieve the real cuts in wages and living standards that would be necessary to seriously improve their competitiveness within the eurozone. Martin Wolf says that higher German domestic demand is the solution (or a big part of it). That would certainly help. So would a weaker euro - though remember, in the current situation, the biggest beneficiaries of a weaker euro would be German exporters. But imagine you were coming to the situation for the first time. You knew nothing of the Bundesbank. Or the history of the single currency project. Or even the market impact of the failure of Lehman brothers. If you were such an unworldly creature, you might come up with two, more ambitious proposals for tackling Greece's fiscal and competitiveness problems head-on: debt restructuring for Greek bondholders; and a higher inflation target for the ECB - say, 4%, instead of 2%. I touched on the first of these, briefly, on the Today programme this morning. If you could pull it off, restructuring Greece's debt (with some suitable "haircut" for private bondholders) would actually lower the real burden of its debt, making the path out of this more plausible. Of course, Greece would pay a price for it in the markets. For a long time. But it's not as if it's never been done. And it's not as if the alternative path for Greece is much brighter. "Unthinkable", you may say. "Remember what happened after Lehmans was allowed to go bust - and everyone in the world holding private bank debt started wondering whether they were next?" The memory of that is indeed one of the many reasons that a debt-restructuring is not being seriously considered. You could be looking at Lehmans, cubed, if the markets started seriously questioning every developed country sovereign bond. But the international community has now accepted that we need ways to restructure private debt without all hell breaking loose - ways to make private bondholders bear some of the burden when banks get into trouble, not just taxpayers. A few years from now, I wonder whether we will be saying the same about sovereign debt problems as well. So much for unthinkable number one. What about unthinkable number two - a higher inflation target for the ECB? This post is so long already - and this is so unlikely to happen - that I won't belabour the point. But this is something that was discussed, a little, when the euro began, and especially when the membership extended beyond the European "core". Arguably, a higher inflation target for the eurozone would help the less developed economies on the periphery grow faster in real terms, not just nominal. It could also make it easier for countries at the periphery to cut labour costs in real terms - without actually lowering people's nominal wages or suffering deflation. And it could weaken the euro, which might help growth as well.

The euro? It's a great success, says Mandy as Greece turmoil sends single currency into worst ever crisis Lord Mandelson triggered incredulity last night by insisting Britain should join the euro - just as the currency struggled with the worst crisis in its history. The Business Secretary played down turmoil in the eurozone by claiming the single currency had been a 'remarkable success' and said it was in Britain's long term interests to sign up in the future. But he was accused of 'living in cloud cuckoo land' after EU politicians failed to quell market panic over Greece's fiscal crisis. Eurozone leaders pledged 'determined and co-ordinated' action to help Greece deal with its vast deficits, as they attempted to shore up the euro. But traders were alarmed at the lack of detail offered about the plan, a weakness which prompted a sell- off late in the session. The euro slid by 1 per cent to $1.36. It was little changed against the pound at 1.13. EU nations led by France and Germany met yesterday at a summit in Brussels to discuss the rescue. Afterwards EU President Herman Van Rompuy said eurozone members would take action if it was 'needed to safeguard financial stability'. Any final plan is expected to involve a mixture of loans or guarantees from the richest eurozone nations plus technical support from the International Monetary Fund and European Central Bank. Despite the turmoil, Lord Mandelson said the crisis had done nothing to dampen his enthusiasm for Britain eventually joining the single currency. He admitted that being outside the eurozone had given the UK more freedom to respond to the downturn, but insisted: 'I think in the longer term it would be in Britain's interests to be part of the eurozone.' Speaking on Radio 4's World at One, he added that the euro had been a 'remarkable success'. 'It is strong and that is why it is going to remain intact,' he said. But Matthew Elliott, chief executive of the Taxpayers' Alliance, said: 'Greece is a living example of why you should never give up control of your own currency, and Lord Mandelson must be living in cloud-cuckoo land if he thinks we should still join the euro.' He added: 'There is no way that British taxpayers should bail out Greece or the euro. The British economy and public finances are in a bad enough state as it is, without dishing out yet more of our money to solve the EU's self-inflicted problems.' Gordon Brown yesterday said Greece's woes were a eurozone problem, but refused to deny that British taxpayers could be forced to contribute if Greece were forced to go to the IMF. Greece's deficit has spiralled to more than 12 per cent of economic output in 2009 - which is more than four times the eurozone's limit.

clicky You've got to be one harsh bastard to do that to your bairn like... Child abuse- plain and simple Some things transcend decency............ .........and anyway, they teach em sex ed at 7 or 8 now (i read it in the daily mail so it must be true )

I miss Stevie............ :lol: He would have had something really interesting to say at all this.............. (if it had been someone else of course!!)

who??

At least you're in disguise.................

so, are they dead yet??

Snakey, the report you read WAS commisioned by Microsoft. I read the same thing. Didnt stop me using Google mail tho. as every system has its weaknesses and not just Google. What Bing didnt mention in the report is that they are also subject to the same rules of disclosure as every other provider (to governments, taxman, police etc..). back to the OP. Might give it a try but to be honest i cant see much use for it. Imo it seems to be a cynical attempt to get everybody to use google products.

the only difference with the CM's is that 1 sits pulling the strings and 2 go forward. Its described like that because thats the starting positions. Sheesh!!

Who plays like that btw? Arsenal used to sometimes when they had Henry. I use it exclusively on Champ Manager. works a treat!! Never seen it used in the way you describe in real life tbh. It doesn't even make sense. A DM then three attacking midfielders with one of them sitting in? ??? i never said 3 AM's? ...... GK RB CB CB LB ...... DM . AM CM AM .....ST ST with the 2 FB's getting forward. any clearer now??

Who plays like that btw? Arsenal used to sometimes when they had Henry. I use it exclusively on Champ Manager. works a treat!!