AgentAxeman

I heard this a couple of days ago aswell. top scorer in all leagues for the past 2 seasons. dont think hes ever played higher than the 3rd division tho.

I had my usual, toast and a coffee.

Happy Birthday!

Congrats Chez!

Bit silly of him really. He should have flown the union flag with the st. georges cross beneath it.

chez, thats one person against the governments of many nations who are trying to implement this plan atm. not saying he isnt wrong like. just that the consensus is against him. maybe the phrase 'sex sells' is pertinant here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10263325.stm Something weird going on like. aye, its a strange one that.

maybe, but it did reduce the deficit which was the main aim of the government of the day.

Keep up Wacky!

Im citing it because it worked. duh! as for 'wanting' something that'll take longer and cause more hardship, thats nonsense. nobody wants it least of all me (or even those making the decisions) but imo (and those making the decision) its necessary as its been proven to work unlike your fancy dan plan to spend more in the hope that'll it'll drag us out of depression/recession. what happens if it doesnt actually drag us out of recession hmmmm? more debt - more shit Quite frankly the last govs financial planning was a shambles so i would have no truck with the figures they trotted out to support such an argument.

To put it another way, if the typical household outspent its means like the government's doing, it would be spending more than £26,800 with an income of £20,500. What if the 27k was spent on a life saving operation? That was supposed to counter CT, not support him. AFAIC borrowing £6k in a year on a £20k income isn't particularly unmanageable once you bounce out of recession....that's the ONLY way to recover.....the problem is deep cuts are going to prolong the recession and fuck us all over. This this, fucking this. I honestly don't think they have a clue what they are doing, and I don't think they care. They were horribly wrong about how to deal with the sub prime crisis, and I honestly am terrified about the damage they are about to cause now. i disagree. you are coming from the perspective that increased spending will actually bring us out of recession when there is no absolute guarantee that it will. however, cutting costs now WILL WORK. it'll take longer and cause more hardship but as evidenced by the canadian model it will work. either way, we're all in the shit!

RIP - Stereophonics wernt my cup of tea but some on here might find this of interest Ex-Stereophonics drummer Stuart Cable believed dead Stuart Cable A 40-year-old man has been found dead at the home of musician Stuart Cable A 40-year-old man - believed to be ex-Stereophonics drummer Stuart Cable - has been found dead at his home. Emergency services attended Mr Cable's house at Llwydcoed near Aberdare, Cynon Valley, at 0500 BST on Monday. South Wales Police said the cause of death had not been established but there were no suspicious circumstances at this stage. Mr Cable, who left the Stereophonics in 2003, had hosted his rock show on BBC Radio Wales on Saturday. He had formed a new band called Killing for Company, who were due to play at Donington Park on Saturday. The band's new album is due for release shortly. His former band Stereophonics played at Cardiff City Stadium on Saturday. Stereophonics were formed in Cwmaman near Aberdare in 1992 by school friends Kelly and Richard Jones along with Cable, who was four years older. Within five years they were rising stars, supporting bands such as the Rolling Stones and U2 Cable has said he was planning to leave the band before he was sacked in September 2003. He had said he had no regrets about leaving the band.

and therein lies the question. I know a lot of people on here would rather slit their own wrists than trust them. Its gonna happen tho. bad times ahead methinks.

possibly, but maybe you are looking at the 'left leaning' sites as you call them because they are backing your predjudices? totally agree with you about Parky tho Anyway, from the Telegraph "Coalition government: the Canadian cuts model that the Tories wish to emulate In the early 1990s the Canadian government faced a serious financial crisis, with a $39 billion budget deficit - representing 9.1 per cent of GDP. Canada's cost-cutting programme saw its science budget halved, while agricultural subsidies, overseas aid and transport were also badly hit But a swift and effective cost-cutting programme turned this deficit into a surplus within five years, while pulling the country out of recession and into economic growth. Between 1992 and 1996 central government departments saw their budgets cut by an average of 20 per cent. Aware that efficiency savings and pay freezes alone would be insufficient, the prime minister Jean Chrétien ordered that all non-essential national government spending be cut. A handful of sectors – such as benefits for the elderly – were spared or saw their budgets increased, but only at the expense of more painful reductions elsewhere. The science budget was halved, while agricultural subsidies, overseas aid and transport were also badly hit. Under a system called Program Review, a committee of senior civil servants demanded that all departments nominate spending programmes that a lean national government should not be funding. They scrutinised these plans and recommended which schemes should be axed to a second committee of ministers, which in turn advised the prime minister. This collegiate approach muffled dissent from ministers who resented cuts to their budgets, by putting them at the centre of the decision-making process. The process was devised to alter the way the country thought about state spending, by exposing subsidies which were not essential. Marcel Massé, the cabinet office minister in charge of the ministerial committee, said the Program Review identified “what needs to be done by government and what we can afford to do”. By releasing details of the spending programmes and public sector salaries approved by Labour, and establishing a "star chamber" to advise on potentially controversial cuts, Mr Cameron is taking inspiration from the Canadian model. As provincial governments saw their health grants slashed, thousands of nurses were sacked and hospital waiting times soared. The shortage of new buildings also led to overcrowding and higher infection rates on wards. But Canadians credit the success of the programme to speed and depth of the cuts. The previous government of Brian Mulroney, a Conservative, had failed to reduce the deficit with a more cautious approach. Jocelyne Bourgon, cabinet secretary for the Canadian civil service at the time, said: "It is preferable to move expeditiously. It creates hope at the end of the tunnel." As the Canadian deficit fell the economy returned to growth, after shrinking by 2.1 per cent in 1991. Between 1992 and 1997 the tax burden increased only slightly, by 0.3 per cent." Fairly drastic but if it works................................

he didnt buy me one, the cunt!

I think that's the best thing about a place like this. Some people might ignore subjects unless they feel versed in them to a professional standard, but if I find a topic interesting I'll always google it and try to get involved, even if i have no clue (more often than not) cos that's how you learn more about it. I've learned shitloads from the sites I'd never otherwise visit unless it was to counter someone or other on here. To be fair to him, CT is one of the few posters willing to admit he's not sure about something and I don't think the threads where he's a lone WUM ever spiral into the bunfights previous wum's have descended to. If I do I tend to stick to authorative websites like government ones or the BBC. Each to their own, but I don't think you can learn anything meaningful if your source material is inherently biased. you dont think government websites are inherently biased towards themselves (ie. the government)?? And also didnt the bbc admit to being left wing biased not so long ago? I think you'll get more objective answers if you search the net. as long as you dont end up at www.iamamarxist.com or www.bnp.co.uk

christ man, pipe down! you're making a fool of yourself! the point is Renton, you are deluded. you try and convince yourself that just because someone asked a question to which the questionee didnt know the answer is in some way a 'victory' or a 'meritous occasion' for the party of the questioner. believe me it isnt a big deal or even an unusual occurance at PMQ.

very nice, how much? Just over 2k. Lush that like GR, but over 2k? for a watch?? An AWFUL lot of money! heres me thinking we were in the depths of depression!

Im confused Renton, I believed you when you said that you believed you were at the center of british politics not so long ago? now your saying you're staunch left wing? So in other words, you were lying when you said that?? or have i got the wrong end of the stick here?? Will the real Renton please stand up, please stand up, please stand up............. etc. tbh, Both CT and Renton are as bad as each other in this thread with neither willing to take a backward step.

Been to Fumes before for a big family night out (mothers 60th). It was shit with a capital 'S'! Cramped and basically the food was crap (and overpriced imo)! Fantastic location tho!

absolutely terrifying if true. means we'll have to start with shola and best up front next season :icon_lol: :o :o

No

R.I.P.

Aye, one of GB's finer moments when he was chancellor.