Holden McGroin

He went forward a lot more than Gilberto but I wouldn't class him as a box to box of the ilk of Gerrard and Lampard etc. They are just completely different players to be honest. The only similar attribute is power.

Veira was a defensive midfielder who could control the game and protect the back 4 superbly. Sissokos natural instinct is to go forward, carrying the ball.

Im not sure how anyone can rate Anita. He is definitely a weak link. He played well against Liverpool but he will never be physical or technical enough to be a good player in the PL. He just doesnt bring anything to the team. I doubt he'd get many games for a championship team.

We dont have the wide players to get crosses in. Maybe Thauvin but he doesnt start. I'd stick with De Jong and Cisse at Spurs. They deserve another go. Hope Tiote is back so we can shift out Anita.

Typical Newcastle. I looked at the Liverpool lineup before the game and just thought their team was shite. Milner, Lucas and Allen in Midfield? Awful. I still think we'd get tonked though so it was pleasant surprise . Colo got lucky a few times but seemed to lead a bit more. Dummet defended well and even Anita had a good game. Lets see if we can carry this on to next week. It shows the depth of our squad when we have to bring on Gouffran in CM when Colback was tiring.

Mbabu is the only player that has played well at left back. And that was only one game.

It reminds be a bit of the Gullit era. Just getting bummed every week without any fight. There are a few players that arent good enough to be in the team but the way they just continually collapse after conceding a goal is evidence they have no fight or desire in them.

Yep. I have sympathy for McClaren. I suspect he might be a better coach than a manager but if the players cant be arsed then it'll only go one way. Our only hope of survival is someone who can come in and actually motivate this rabble and get them to work for each other but i genuinely dont know if that is possible. Some of the body language and visible lack of effort is scary.

You need to be much better on the ball at full back as well. He is probably a league 1 central defender really. He'll end up playing for Chesterfield or something like that soon.

I'd take Moyes, but only a short term contract. See if he can get this rabble motivated.

I'd personally give Sissoko one final last chance but in CM and give De Jong a run . We need to take control of the midfield. We are constantly losing the battle in centre of midfield Sissoko Tiote/colback Gini De Jong Perez

Dummett has to go as well. Although not sure we have anyone capable of filling in there. Anita as well. He is a weak point.

Relegation is nailed on for me unless something changes.

Thats it essentially. They dont want to be coached for me. I bet most of them want away in January.

We have been stuck in a rut for years now. Bar that little run under Pardew which kept us in the league last year we've been diabolical. We just collapse when we let a goal in. Zero team spirit. The players clearly don't care and the whole club is rotten from the top down. I genuinely don't know what the answer is. Ashley isnt leaving any time soon so we are stuck with this shower of shite. We could potentially bomb down the leagues if action isnt taken soon.

We seriously need to beef up the midfield if we want to get anything out of this: Im assuming Tiote is out. Anita needs to be removed and sold. Sissoko should be put inside and told to hold (although naturally he will get forward).

as someone said earlier our midfield just gets bossed every game. Thats where the problem is. We are going to really struggle with Anita being our enforcer.

Not sure what is going on with Anita covering in at RB when Janmaat goes forward. Leaves the midfield desperately thin. I dont rate the guy but he is clearly being told to do this. This happened against Bournemouth as well.

Kevin Muscat did him.

"Noboby got injured " and one particular player looked good. Scraping the barrel there fish. If you were putting them up against negatives from the game then there would only be one winner.

Yes, that was the point I was making but I cant see how you can take a lot of positives out of that mauling.

The most of that comes under the umbrella of Jelliott playing superbly. We were absolutely smashed by a team of championship players and got extremely, extremely lucky. Granted we deserved the points v Sunderland and all 3 against Stoke but Christ...that was one of the most inept performances I've ever seen. Funny old game 'n all that.

What positives did you get from that? Apart from a magical performance from Jelliot?

We've got 2 central midfielders in Sissoko and GIni that can play there. Anita needs to be shelved along with Dummett.

Anita is so bad.