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This is an absolute classic example of what I call the MLF cycle (Mackem Laugh Fewm). It goes like this.

"Well hello from my front room and a quick podcast about Newcastle's massive headache about building their new stadium. Oh! Didn't you know? There's an old mine underneath, methane gas leaks and the other bit of land they'd need is old marshland and prone to flooding. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news and all that."

"Next we've got two right little crackers from down that there south, Sandra and Tracey known to their darts team as 'PL' and 'Craig'. A big Bully welcome to the girls!" "How's it going, Jim?" "Alright, big man?"

interest free shareholder loans it transpires, are a form of financial doping. so thats, everton, arsenal, livarpool, brighton, bournemouth all cheating thanks to the tyranny of the majority. embarassing.

Arteta is taking it well: Dyche is taking it worse:

I see International break has hit Toontastic hard already.

I think I’ve stumbled on something. Replace the G with an R and:

PIF Want Out Rumours? | Page 17 | RTG Sunderland Message Boards (readytogo.net) Some MLFs are floating the idea of a ground share during SJP redevelopments being something their daft owner would consider after the "travesty" of the FA cup match. It's sparked the usual responses.

The king: Also I am going for a goalless 4-0

The problem is, he had an hour in which Gordon quite often occupied two or three defenders creating a shit load of space and did absolutely nothing. It's pointless having him on the pitch if he's not doing the one thing he does well - threatening goal. You may as well have Miggy and Murphy on the pitch doing absolutely fuck all in the final third but stretching their defenders to bits. I completely understood the logic in taking him off as he was playing shite IMO, however at that point I'd probably have hooked Murphy for Osula as well and put Gordon out left. For me, it would have made more sense having a big lump up top who is also insanely quick - Tarkowski and the other slouch would have no doubt threw a few more dodgy tackles in and won us some dangerous free kicks, maybe a red card and perhaps another stonewall pen (that someone else could have actually scored).

I have been instructed to do so as well There’s me for the questions and my ex county player mate for the arrows

Over the weekend me and mate signed up for the reboot of Bullseye

stick with it, there;s probably only a few hundred in front of you. 28,000 of them will be ct.

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The ruling states that the APT rules are unlawful because they exclude shareholder loans. So I don't see how the PL can just go "Aye but that's how we like them. We're keeping the interest free loans out of the rules". They've got themselves in a right fucking mess. And yet they'll still insist that they can self-regulate.

Shouting across the pitch to his marra in opposite stand, ” Eeya, Mick, me cheeyse slice looks like a Lion!”

Or the sound of a cheese slice being surreptitiously unwrapped and applied to a manky burger.

Martin Samuel... - “The tyranny of the majority,” City argued, and everybody sneered. It’s called democracy, they chorused. Well, yes and no. First past the post is democracy too, yet the tyranny of the majority is why your vote will never count if you are a Labour voter in a safe Conservative seat, or vice versa. - It’s the ruination of football, the destruction of the English game, that will be the argument. No, it’s not. City’s dominance is still scheduled to end pretty much the year Pep Guardiola walks out the door - as of 2023, Brighton held shareholder loans of £302.8million. Charging interest at between eight and ten per cent would put £66-84million on their PSR calculation and will now have to be factored in going forward. - Everton, for instance, have £451million in shareholder loans, equating to as much as £104million on their PSR calculation. Arsenal have £258million, working out to a potential addition of £62.5million. - it was three judges, not City, who studied it and saw through it

Basically.... If PIF loaned us £500m to spend on players, nothing about our PSR situation would be improved. Loans dont get offset against your PSR profits or anything. Getting the money at zero interest is nice, but if we spent that money on players, everything about those transactions would be the same as before. Same amortisation costs, same player wages, and same impact on PSR. Where the clubs with the interest free loans are benefiting is that there is an insistence that all of our sponsorship deals are at market value/on market terms. But their loans aren't. If they're already sailing close to the wind on PSR, then having those loans on normal commercial terms would kill them. Which is why it's ridiculous that they aren't a part of the rules. Even if the rules stated that you can have your interest free loans, but for the purposes of PSR, the PL will apply a notional market rate of interest to those loans and that figure will be used in your calculation. That would be a fair treatment.

Highlight a loophole, as if an independent panel haven't deemed what the PL did as illegal - I.e. not a fucking loophole. Special breed of dafty is the Sunderland dafty.

🎵 Man, I feel like a City." 🎶

This cunt btw 'love it, me ' 'it'll be too late ' Dangermows.

It was pretty much obvious, but somehow seeing it in black and white has boiled my piss regardless.

Nefilim AND Albert back in the same 24 hour period.....

He reckon's Roger's being brought in to undermine Mitchell's authority and Howe isn't happy about it. Or something like that....

From South Shields supposedly. Claimed by RTG as an MLF in 3,2,1....

It would be some turn-up for the books if we won a PL game under your "reign".

Applies to the aristocracy and the royal families of Europe as well - maybe that's what the mackems mean when they calll themselves "classy".

I owe the board an apology. I invoked his name.

Loans themselves don't really help with PSR. But when you've got a bunch of loans on your balance sheet, having them at zero interest means you're skipping a pretty massive chunk of cost which would otherwise reduce your profits and put you closer to the PSR trouble zone. We don't have a cash problem, we have a profit problem. But we don't have debt, so giving us interest free debt wouldn't help.

So basically, why is it fine for owners to give interest free loans to the club but it’s not okay for a club to receive money from a related party for sponsorship? Solid argument tbf.

That’s quite the take. He’d have been over the moon, purely due to the implications for us, if Man City hadn’t won that case. He’s fucking odd, even by the standards of that place, though

Meltdowns all over the place😂

HALLO EVERTON! And the OMG HOW DO THEY DO IT boys, Brighton as well. That's how they fucking do it.

FYP

Things that make you go hmmm.....

Did you know that, in the eponymous nursery rhyme, nowhere does it mention that Humpty Dumpty is an egg?

You've found your Rudy.

Very Trump-like, this from Gloom. Steals the position of thread starter and now wants to fall back on traditions and likes to talk up his terrible record. "We're gonna win so big. The only way we lose against Brighton is if they steal this off me." etc.

The thread you stole. I don't know why I should expect better from a monarch tbf, but as a staunch royalist I do.

A message for the small folk. This is Toontastic etiquette. The match thread starter remains in place until an undefeated run ends. The KING reigns, and he is not happy with his subjects' treasonous talk.

Cheers tbd, will look into it (BB and GoT being my favourite ever series so trust your recommendation). And:

Considering the throne was stolen from @Meenzer it should be he that steps up to lead us in these dark times of snide cunts in christmas cracker hats hoying cheeky bets on players scoring against us. Completely ruined the international break. String him up.

fish super post coming in 5.....4......3.......2.....