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The worst thing about this tournament is that the team and the manager should have LOADS of regrets. Wrong team selections, horrendously negative/conservative tactics, mistakes in the squad selection. Then the fact the team could clearly play when it needed to - evidence having an ability to constantly recover from falling behind - but whenever the scores were level, he was happy to sit back and just... I don't even know what. Wait for someone to produce something magic? There was no attempt to make things happen for ourselves. We went into the tournament with this wealth of attacking players and Southgate treated it like it was a weakness rather than a strength, and negated the squad's biggest asset with his pathetic tactics. On tactics too, Eddie Howe had a year and a bit off when he left Bournemouth and he travelled the world honing his coaching skills and trying to learn. Most of Southgate's job as England manager was down time. The FA would have happily funded him to do something like Howe did, but he didn't bother his arse as far as I can tell. I remember saying in earlier tournaments that he seemed like the sort of bloke that would address the shortcomings in his abilities, but if anything they just became more entrenched. Theres loads to be grateful to Southgate for, but the fact that there won't be a top club offering him a job tells you everything you need to know about his abilities as a manager.

I will not be the one to criticize the conservative and defensive game. I love when Atlético did it (2013-2020), I love when Howe did it with us last year. Even I, in the times in which I have been a coach of neighborhood teams, used to be quite defensive because it was the best way to win in a football where there is hardly any level and the tactics shine. Going into the tournament, I believed England potentially had the best team. I had no doubts, in fact. But once I saw the real list and saw that players like Grealish, Rashford, Henderson, Maddison and Chilwell were left out and that they only had Shaw (injured) as left back, I thought things might not go so well. There is no doubt that Southgate, by results, is perhaps the best English coach in history. He has played 4 major tournaments and has achieved two runners-up finishes in Europe and has reached the quarterfinals in the last World Cup (where England did play well in my opinion and deserved to beat France in that game). The problem is that England has a team and selection to play something different and, making the most of it, have won a title. I think the best years of a great generation have been wasted, although now another one is coming. The one led by Foden, Bellingham, Saka, Gordon, Rice... Still young players. And it is essential to find the ideal coach for this. It makes no sense that, with the poor performance that almost all the players have given in this tournament, you have not given more minutes to players like Watkins, Gordon, Eze... As for yesterday's game... It was typical of a final. England were very good without the ball. Spain was not too superior, even if it tried harder. He barely managed to create chances. Anyone could have won it. England, after tying, had good minutes to score the second. He was even able to force extra time with that last corner that Olmo took under the sticks. I have been a defender of Southgate because results always rule, but I think it is time to make a change. The problem is that I don't know if there is an English coach qualified to handle this great team or you would have to go look for a coach outside.

Jude: "Bro, nobody really likes me here, I'm sick as fuck." Shit one: "Come and stay here with me in Sunderland on your weekend off, they'll love you." Jude: "Because I'm your brother?" Shit one: "No, because you're a bit famous now and you'd be visiting their shit town which everyone ignores. Just say 'I hate the Mags anaarl' and the locals will offer their daughters to perform any sex act you desire." Jude: "Really?" Shit one: "Yeah it's..... Oh hang on a minute, Jude, here's one passing now.....I HATE THE MAGS ANAARL....." [Distant voice] "Gerrin! Ahl send our Alison over to cleyn ya pipe, marra." Shit One: "See? Works every time."

I'm gonna start calling you Fleetwood Mac.

Aye, he also pointed out that Southgate has won only 7 out of 29 games against top 10 ranked sides. He has had teams good enough to go toe to toe with the world's best but he hasn't done that.

Kane hasn't suddenly become a bad striker, he's still one of the best in world football, it looks to me like a combination of a lack of fitness and a system that doesn't suit him at all. Looking at this England team and it's hard not to see similarities to Sven's side. Full of top quality players but a manager who is determined to shoe horn them into a team that just doesn't work together. If you're going to play Kane then you need runners in behind and Gordon would have been perfect for that but instead Southgate sticks Foden out there. If you want to play Foden and Bellingham together as No. 10s then you can't have a lone striker as immobile as Harry Kane but you do need a manager with more balls than Southgate to drop your top goalscorer. It's basically another missed opportunity. Another tournament where England get through playing with the handbrake on which will get you so far but won't get you far enough to win the actual thing.

It would explain why a lad with his money and resources spends more than a minute in sunderland - The shit one - “ Hey bro, I’ve got a week off, shall I come to Madrid and see you and your pals?” The good one -“ Nah bro, I’ll come to you, show me how it is in medieval times”

for the love of god man, the very least you could've done was include a tory boy warning that hurst would appear the second you click on the play button.

Alan Hull (RIP) became a member of our quiz team at the Black Horse Monkseaton quiz nights thirty odd years ago. Lovely bloke. Sank a few bottles of red wine perched against our mantlepiece at one of our house parties back in the day. Of his songs, he hated Fog on the Tyne, Lady Eleanor was what he thought his best.

This cheeky cunt admitted in his autobiography that England just wasn't a priority for him. He opted out of the 2002 World Cup so he could focus on Liverpool, and when McClaren was desperate and asked him to come back, he refused. So I suppose he'd at least be well informed as to what it looks like when England players don't turn up at big tournaments.

Who dares wins and we didn’t. At least it’s only 12 more sleeps til Eddies boys are back in business.

I can just see his bald fucking stupid head emerging from the water like Brando in Apocalypse Now.

I hadn't spotted this but Lineker was saying that, when Spain's winner went in, Southgate had two subs ready to come on - Trippier and Gallagher. Trippier you can understand, although it was 20 minutes too late. But Gallagher?! You're in a major championships final man. Are you gonna try and fucking win the tournament or what? What is his thinking there ffs. He's a human condom.

Of course Shearer absolutely scoffed at the idea of "England being managed by a German?!" when Klopp was mentioned, the fucking tit. Went on to say that for him the England manager needs to be English. Brexit voter, Shearer. I guarantee it.

That’s quite the take

Poch maybe? I honestly don’t really care though. I had a slightly weird experience about 30 minutes into the match last night. It was an almost blissful realisation that I didn’t give a fuck. It’s not something you can force, because even as a ‘neutral’ when I watch a game I almost always end up wanting one team to win. I didn’t want England to get beat. And I quite like the squad. I just had next to no emotional investment in the result.

I thought the reply below had to be a parody account, then I looked at his other posts. How the fuck is this shit not in violation of the racism policies of twitter? Yes , I know Musk has 100% red -pilled, but this is a global company- you can’t just let cunts like this spread their bile with no repercussions.

They were on about Clarke again today. One poster saying he’ll stay unless they get a bid north of £25m. And, if they don’t, he’ll go for £15-20m next summer when he has a year left on his contract.

Jamie Carragher: "I'm sure Jude Bellingham would love to try the Premier League one day. And where better than Liverpool, six-time Champions of Europe?" Thierry Henry: "He is playing for a club that has won 14 Champions Leagues."

P.S. to the above (funny story, well I thought so). Lass I worked with, knew me, my brother and our dad went to the quiz night. One week she said, would you mind if me, my sister and her hubby came down. Was fine by me, as we were always outnumbered. So we’re stood in the pub waiting and lass and her folks turn up, we all say hello and the fella says “anyone want a drink” and disappears to the bar. I turn to the lass (Jackie) and say “Christ, your brother in law is the spitting dabs of Alan Hull out of Lindisfarne” she simply replied “That’s coz he is” 😂 That is how I met Alan. We quizzed as a team on and off for couple of years, Alan actually at one time ran his own quiz at the Maggy Bank in Shields. He loved a quiz 😂😂

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That is actually fucking mental to watch. It's like you're playing against the computer on an early version of Fifa, and it does something completely fucking batshit when it's in an attacking position.

Not saying we are not creative, obviously we are, but I think Spain are on another level, and I am not convinced that is completely down to coaching/tactics. Spain is an artistically very expressive and flamboyant nation. England, well, have you been here?

Their conversations will contain a record number of uses of the words "I shit you not..."

Speaking of which, has anyone checked on Ross Kemp?

Two Euro finals on the bounce he's dropped his arse. He almost got lucky at the last one by forcing it to pens despite being the poorer side. Last night we got what we deserved. We gave France a game at the last world cup and may have won it had Kane not ballooned that pen over the south stand. That's the only impressive performance against a top side in Southgate's tenure - even Germany were ranked 12th when we beat them at the last Euros (and we played shite against them).

one of the great monday morning thinkers me.

England should’ve to gone out to Slovakia and were incredibly lucky not to do so. That’s the legacy he deserved for his tactics and selections in this tournament

This is worth an applause. Great post. But what makes me chuckle. You'll get people ramming the 'best England manager ever' shite down at you. Oh yeh? He's also first manager to get to two finals and lose em both when he really had the players to win them both. The same people wank over Kane. Kane who smashes fuck out of Gibraltar in a friendly (like he should) but for this whole tournament has been missing. Friendlies like that where Southgate should be giving Watkins etc well over an hour of football but he won't. Hes a very limited manager and is scared of upsetting a few of his pals. Foden and Bellingham. Two of the best attacking players in the world last season have looked bang average for half a match of football and then shit the rest all because of Safegate football.

Aye, that’s the one… sorry for any related shite to the absolute thunderous wanker Liddle.

A cursory read of that says that he’s not so much actually disliked by his England team mates, but is more a victim of the very English disease of “let’s bring down someone who’s talented and knows it”. The lad is very, very good. I think we’d all agree on that. Why he should conform to the media driven expectation to be humble about that is less his problem and more the problem of Ingeerlund supporters and its media. The fact he’s black has no bearing on this, at all, obviously.

Yep, they're mackem hands alright, smoggies are webbed

It’s understandable that they can’t work out monetary values, since they operate in base 12 as opposed to base 10.

Southgate for Liverpool, then Jamie? (Or would that be a big fat no?)

He's away to the channel to sink some dinghies to cheer himself up.

Harry Cole one of those "fans" who thinks there's no jokes after a defeat. He's just too GUTTED MATE for anyone to be coming out with a daft joke. The surest sign that someone is just a cunt playing the part for a month every couple of years.

I disagree. I don’t think it’s an interesting topic

No, I saw an Accrington one. Done. Lets move on.

How much better are this Spain team to watch than the tikitaka lads btw? Tremendous. Played 7, won 7.