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“OK SOME CUNT ON HERE THE OTHER DAY MENTIONED THAT THEY’D BE HAPPY WITH A POINT AT THE HAMMERS…. NAE CUNTS LEAVING TILL WE FIND OUT WHAT CUNT DONE IT!”

It was me and, considering how poor we were in the first half, how depleted we are with injuries and the week or so we’ve had, at the high levels we’ve given, it’s a good result

I think a lot of people get caught up in viewing things through their own cultural lense and biases. You have to remember, to middle eastern countries such as Saudi, they view the practices we see as despicable as just and par for the course. The concept of sports washing would imply that they feel guilty or ashamed of their practices and were trying to cover it up through smoke and mirrors involving sport. In reality they seem to view the west's approach to criminals and dissidents as strange and unusual. I'm not defending the policies of the House of Saud here at all, far from it, but I find when dealing with international cultural understanding and politics it's easy to assess the situation through the lense of your own culture and sensibilities. The Muslim religion has existed since the 7th century and the Arabic and Berber culture even longer, and is very explicit about how to govern the population and how morals and ethics should be adhered to. Unlike Christianity which has been seen as malleable and open to interpretation with major reforms coming through the protestant reformation and later the Vatican 2 reforms, Islam is seen as absolute and unchanging by its scholars. Again I am not defending this and also at the same time I'm also not going to judge. It is what it is and many studies and surveys have shown that an overwhelming majority of Muslims like it as it is (Pew have done multiple exhaustive worldwide surveys with gigantic sample sizes https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/). As an English man (yes I see myself as such, we still live in the empire here, and I was raised by an English mother), I'm cautious about forcing beliefs on to other cultures as it's just perpetuating a colonial mindset and it really hasn't worked out well on our last three forays with the US into Muslim countries over the past 3 decades. If anything it's made them more fundamental and murderey. What I'm getting at here is that the sportswashing label is ridiculous on the face of it. These middle eastern theocracies, caliphates and absolute monarchies don't care about what the west thinks of their behaviours. They do care about prestige and the accumulation of wealth, deeds and status, especially when competing with rival states. As you said people are going to judge us based on how our owners govern and project their power. If you dig slightly under the surface of any of the other owners of other teams you're going to find a sleazy underbelly. US billionaires, Chinese concerns, South East Asian oligarchs, Russians etc etc. Until the Prem adopts a model like the Bundesliga that puts the power into the hands of the fans (lol good luck), it's going to continue to be dominated by unscrupulous types who are inflating their own egos with spare change from their unbelievable fortunes. When it comes down to it people don't like change. They like the established order of top 6 teams and sometimes an outsider like Leicester busting through. When someone like us comes through to upset the apple cart and oust some of the top 6, they will use what they can to delegitimise us. This happens to be easy with a very obviously nefarious power as the owner. However, glass houses and all that. Sorry I've been on the vodka again tonight and I've written another essay.

I think Man Utd have shown that easier said than done. I still think he's better than most keepers in the league

He's not just young, he's only 20, a bairn. I didn't see the game today but not sure what people expect. He's played a significant role in several games already this season. Thank fuck we have cover like this coming through the ranks tbh, he's got every chance of making it with Howe.

Always deflating after conceding a late goal. Nevermind. Can't wait for the snooze fest that is international break! Zzzz

You’re trying to apply logic to gibbering insanity.

If it’s not us, which I don’t think it will be this season, I’d rather it was Man City again.

I totally agree but it's deflating letting a late goal in, especially when we really should've made it 3-1. I'd have took a point before the game, I'd have taken one at HT as well! Like has been said, easier games and a mini break to get some players back.

Well aye of course it did. I wasn't suggesting he'd done it by magic.

If Isak had made that 3-1 it was game over. I'd have taken a draw at half time though. 2 weeks off now and Gordon, Wilson, Botman and Joelinton should all be back after the break

Hey arseholes. We don't post stuff like this unless we concede.

Isak getting into the game a lot more but we need a striker in the middle. Wilson needs to see a good portion of the second half if he's fit. With Isak still on the field.

Think it’s only right that Dortmund are replaced with Boro in our Champions League group. Only then can we get a clear answer to who the best team in Europe is

Well it’s a slow night in the Dougle kennel, and as such I had mild curiosity as to when the boro had indeed beat us 5-0. 1931. I wonder if the thick spunk bucket who is going to gleefully present ‘his’ stat to his hated mag work marras will present this one too? I’m guessing the thick cunt wont even know. Anyhow back to painting the stairs.

Fully expected Mr Chips to show up at some point.

This was class move by Areola.

Thanks for that.

One of boro's scorers is from a Sunderland supporting family so......

Are you in the waste management business?

7 Games unbeaten since Brighton. Not bad to say we have played City, Milan & PSG during those.

Our Mackem friends are now literally convinced we're fixing matches, not just Exile here, but thearge majority who post. I mean, how would this work in practice, how many people would have to be involved to fix the Sheffield United game? Genuinely amazed anyone could believe this and further, if you did why you would watch the sport.

Agreed on all points and no need for an apology ☺️ 🤝 We missed Gordon’s energy badly. Thought he might have started Murph for that reason. No real complaints though

It’s the end of a really tough week. The players must by physically and mentally exhausted. Time to recharge, hopefully welcome some players back and get to work on the training ground during the international break before Palace at home.

I'm miles behind, haven't even score yet!

That is a very misleading correlation to make and I think this goes to show that you don't understand football. This could be down to a couple of factors: 1)Magedia which genuinely has you brainwashed 2)Sportswashing which means the Saudis have got to you. It is a well known fact, unless you support Newcastle aka Saudi United (Only Newcastle fans don't know this), that the Championship is far better than the Premier League (apart from a few teams, somewhere around 20) and that as soon as you get promoted, you become worse than when you were in the Championship which is why the lesser teams of the Premier League end up beating you.

It would have to be a very safe seat for him to be parachuted into though. Unless things drastically change between now and the election. Which doesn’t seem likely. It would be nice to see him fail (again) at what must be his 8th or 9th attempt to become an MP. The repulsive cunt

It probably scans nicely with Shanks and Bigfoot's 1999 banger; Sweet like Chocolate.

See Renton, that’s how you do it.

Boro manager a mag. MLF manager a smoggie. Am fewmin marra.

I've just learned that rugby in Portuguese is "râguebi". They deserve the World Cup just for that.

I didn’t see it but it sounds like Bruno was lucky to escape a red card. Day could have been a lot worse

Sorry Now I’m finished

We have now got a decent run off games until we play Tottenham away in December where we should pick up a decent amount of points and have got the chance to win big matches at home against the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Man United.

Fair play to Moyes btw. He's lost Declan Rice and still turned them into a better team.

Tonali gets properly frustrated when people aren't on his wavelength. I'm not sure he's a big Anderson fan.

Isak and Tonali looking sharp but no one else seems to be on it so far

Probably more a comedown from the biggest atmosphere most of them have ever played in

I was born and brought up in Middlesbrough, my dad worked at ICI… I know where the term comes from so you can fuck off dropping your memes.

Stockton is historically in Durham and Boro in Yorkshire as the Tees was the border so Mackem logic dictates Stockton is MLF territory.

Through gritted teeth I have to say that's a magnificent result for the MLF hordes who aren't too keen on promotion. Fair play.

Cattermole"s a pundit here. Seems pretty clear he's still a smoggy at heart. Uh oh. Another one off the Xmas card list. Nar Cats for me marra.