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  1. Interesting article; apologies if posted elsewhere. Uefa’s wealth distribution favours established elite while putting Newcastle in their place Martin Samuels Saturday May 27 2023, 6.00pm, The Sunday Times If Newcastle United are knocked out of the Champions League at the group stage next season, they will earn in the region of £21.5 million. If the same fate befalls Manchester City, it is likely to be nearer £58 million. And fair enough, you may say. City won the league, Newcastle are fourth at present. Yet here’s the thing. Even if those positions were flipped — so City are fourth, Newcastle first — and both went out at the group stage, City would still be close to £20 million ahead. Thank Uefa’s ten-year historical co-efficient pot. Keeps the rich rich, keeps the poor poor. And exposes the myth around financial fair play. If clubs can only spend what they earn, and then the tournament regulations restrict that capacity, where’s the financial fairness? Yet to keep the elite clubs sweet, and to ward off the threat of a breakaway super league, Uefa has increasingly skewed its revenue streams in favour of the biggest and wealthiest. Then the financial rules tie each club to the size of its revenue stream. And see what they did? Derren Brown would be proud. In recent years, just about every major change made in wealth distribution by Uefa has benefited the establishment. In 2016-17, it was possible for Leicester City to be the Premier League’s highest earners in Europe. They won their domestic competition, they went further in the Champions League than any other English club, so it made sense. That season, Leicester earned €17.1 million (£14.86 million) more from Uefa competition than their nearest rivals, Arsenal. That has changed. Without unimagined success — and also unimagined failure on the part of all their Premier League rivals, which gives one club a greater share of the television pool — it is hard to see how Newcastle can repeat this. It’s why a club of Leicester’s size can win the league one year, the FA Cup a short while later and then be plunged into FFP crisis soon after. The Champions League, and European football generally, is no longer worth the same to new arrivals and the established elite, no matter what the new club has achieved. The ten-year historical co-efficient pot distributes revenue according to a club’s performance in Europe over the past decade. The total, £522 million, is divided on a sliding scale, with Real Madrid in line for £31.65 million and Manchester City £28.67 million despite that 5-1 aggregate semi-final scoreline. Madrid are rewarded for being good some years ago, regardless of how they perform now. Yet Newcastle most recently played in Europe in the Europa League in 2012-13. They literally have no historical co-efficient points in the present system. This means they are assigned one-fifth of the English overall co-efficient, quite probably the lowest total in the competition, and worth £989,000. That payment would not change, even had they been league champions. By comparison, Arsenal will receive £21.75 million and Manchester United £24.72 million. Newcastle could switch places with Manchester United this afternoon and it would make no difference to the cut decided on past performance. Historical co-efficients are not interested in what just happened; only what went before. So far, so protectionist; but then factor FFP into it with clubs only spending what they earn and you see how corrupt the whole idea is, with the wealthy lobbying to place limitations on the earning potential of upstart rivals. And it will get worse. When the new Champions League format begins in 2024-25, it will include two additional performance-related places. Originally, these were going to be awarded to the clubs with the highest five-year co-efficient that had not already qualified through league position but, rightly, there was uproar. This could have resulted in an established elite club skipping from domestic sixth place, over the fifth placed team, and into Uefa’s marquee competition. No prizes for guessing who was keen on that but, for once, the word fairness was applied in its correct context and Uefa backed down. Now the two extra places will go to teams from the countries with the best co-efficient ratings from the previous campaign. Next year, that would have been England and Italy. Most years, let’s be frank, it’s going to be England and somebody. Nothing taken for granted, of course — reliable Spain has underperformed in 2022-23 — but it is probable the Premier League will get five over the line with some regularity. The more English clubs the merrier. Yet this season that would have ruined one of the more compelling narratives towards the end of the season — will Liverpool catch United or Newcastle? — and with ten-year historical co-efficients so important, it helps to maintain the dominance of the cabal. Instead of missing out on the Champions League next season, Liverpool would continue their run of six straight years in the competition, building on their historical ranking as they go, and making it harder for smaller rivals to get their share. This all then bleeds into calculations around FFP. It is why some observers refuse to be weaned off the idea that clubs like Newcastle — and City before them — should not meekly continue to be feeders for the elite. Last week the former Liverpool midfielder Dietmar Hamann was discussing the midfielders needed to bolster Jürgen Klopp’s team for next season. “I’d like a player like Joelinton, who’s got a physical presence,” he said. But why would Joelinton leave Newcastle, who have edged Liverpool out of the Champions League, unless it was felt there was a limit on what a player could achieve there? Witness the debate around Newcastle’s proposed £25 million-a-year shirt sponsorship deal with Sela, who are majority-owned by the Saudi Public Investment Fund, as are the club. Sela are the IMG of Saudi Arabia, organising events such as motorsport’s Race of Champions. This deal would fall into the remit of the Premier League’s related-party transactions. Yet no such scrutiny would be applied if Sela went into business with United. The longest-standing commercial partner at Old Trafford is Saudi Telecom. And this again seeps into the fabric of FFP. It’s fine for United to make money from Saudi Arabia, but if Newcastle do it, there’s suspicion. In the meantime, nobody looks at the elite clubs and Uefa’s ten-year historical co-efficient payments and spies related parties. Yet they might as well be joined at the hip.
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  2. P38 L5 Thats some effort mind. We also conceded fewer goals than anyone else in the league
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  3. Hands on heads in the crowd at Goodison. Please, it's been a shit few years, let the world have this one.
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  4. I'll not bother searching for everyone that said "Liverpool WILL win all of their remaining games", but there were several. However I will out THE THREADSTEALER HOLDEN MCGROIN as one who did. Honestly we should ban him right now. Next season's CL qualification depends on it.
    5 points
  5. Fucking good, since his entire shameful political choice to cut the country to the fucking bone undoubtedly killed people. Fuck all will happen but maybe just a bit of attention about the actual human cost of austerity might land with a few of the 'a national economy is like a household budget' halfwits.
    5 points
  6. Over the moon for him 😊 https://www.cbf.com.br/selecao-brasileira/noticias/selecao-masculina/selecao-brasileira-esta-convocada-para-amistosos-com-guine-e-senegal
    4 points
  7. Thread 'How on Gods green earth do Everton survive every year?' https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/how-on-gods-green-earth-do-everton-survive-every-year.1608429/
    4 points
  8. 4 points
  9. Cunt boy for Man Utd has scored. To narrow it down its the the rat faced cunt boy who looks like a rat looking out of a coal sack. AKA Bruno Fernandes
    4 points
  10. Almiron is fucking killing us today, desperately need to improve on him in the summer imo.
    4 points
  11. Unfortunately, I think this is the real Almiron. Early season Miggy was just a crazy episode in his career. He still plays a really important role in the team but his shooting boots are on backwards.
    4 points
  12. Now, now. That is the type of typical NUFC fan behaviour that has us the reputation that we have. You are quite clearly still bitter that Everton got Lampard and Aston Villa got Gerard. We had to make do with Howe. Just suck it up. It is what it is.
    4 points
  13. Seems to have been called up by Brazil for their friendlies. Fair play to him, hell of a journey.
    4 points
  14. "United or Newcastle". He's still a fat tramp.
    4 points
  15. Just a quick one to congratulate fellow members of TEAM SAUSAGE for standing firm all season. Bring on the Euro Bangers.
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  16. 3 points
  17. He seems okay, his wife has her knockers though.
    3 points
  18. Wait til you watch Jerry Mina attempting to non-consensually breastfeed off Solanke on MOTD. Should have been off with 15 to go. I don't even think he got booked.
    3 points
  19. I was hoping he'd take a Chelsea player out so we could say he came in like a wrecking ball
    3 points
  20. Liverpool getting beat 4-2. Which clever cunt was it that said 66 points would be enough for CL?!
    3 points
  21. 3 points
  22. He couldn't finish his breakfast. Works hard but those goals were definitely the exception not the rule.
    3 points
  23. We’re not pressing with anything like our normal intensity, which is understandable given they’re all probably still hungover
    3 points
  24. Commentator explaining how Lampard can't do anything about this team. Aye right there not like you expect a manager to sort out the defence do you?
    3 points
  25. Mint, he'll not let anyone down that's for sure.
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  26. Clearly the fair thing would be for the co-efficient to only apply to which seed you are for the draw as opposed to the money you receive for progress, but the world we live in is corrupt to the core. The one silver lining is that I'd be confident that we could manage top five most seasons when the extra champions league place comes in season after next. To get to Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U, and to a lesser extent Spurs and Arsenal given they've missed CL on a fair few occasions over the last ten years, level of revenue is going to be a long slog. We're going to have to be very careful as a club so as to not become a Leicester or Everton when it comes to FFP, and be patient as fans when we're told that we can't spend what we like just because we have the richest owners. We could of course hope that the Saudi owners will employ some dark arts and learn from Man City so as to not get caught. And not necessarily to hide how much we're spending, but rather to put pressure on UEFA so as to make the co-efficient system more fair. Then again given the threat of a break away Super League that might prove impossible.
    3 points
  27. If Everton survive perhaps they’ll suggest making the third relegation spot a four team play off too. A bit of jeopardy and excitement for the bottom 8 clubs
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