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I mean. Just for your knowledge. If you want to know more for the team I love since I was born. And is probably the cause did I like Newcastle. It's because I saw so much similar things between Atletico with the Gil Family (owners) and Newcastle with Ashley. Atletico always was Top3 in Spanish League. Even, it was second so many years in the history. The real spanish derby was Atletico-Real Madrid, not Barça. In 1987, Atletico was 'buyed' by Jesús Gil. At this moment, Atletico had 8 Spanish League... and Barcelona 10 (Real Madrid 22). In 2011, the year Simeone arrived, Atletico had 9 Spanish League... and Barcelona 21 (Real Madrid 31). In this 24 years, Atletico had more than 50 coaches and more than 250 players. I mean... More than 2 coaches per season, and more than 10 new players per season. Get relegated to second division... It was unbelievable. We had more than 10 years without playing european competitions. And you know why we get relegated? It's crazy. The players have a contract earning the low salary, but they earn much more in 'black money'. The owner was in jail at this moment, and the club was managed by Spanish Tax Authorities. What happened? the Authorities only paid the 'low contract'.... that it was more or less only the 10% they earn really. The owner told to the players that the only way to get the all salary was if they lost the matches, becasuse it this thing happened, people made so much pressure and the goverment would decide put the owner free and stop the investigation. And yes, this thing happened, but lately, because the owner was free with the team in the bottom of the classification. But the more important thing is the way Jesús Gil 'buyed' Atletico. Jesús Gil was the last owner we had, and now the owner is his son Miguel Ángel. The president is Enrique Cerezo, is the same president with the father and with the son. This 3 'payed' 2.000 millones of pesetas (the coin we used before euros) for de 95% of the club, but the next day, the money just dissapear. The other 5% was buyed by the fans that put their money (my grandfather, one of them). 15 years later, the spanish justice research the case, and the veredict was, the 3 was guilty, they have robbed the club, and they have robbed the money of this 5% of the fans. Jesús Gil was in jail at this moment (for other question) and a few months later died (there are so many people believe he is alive in any part of the world) And the veredict was... They should put back the money... and go 3 years to prison, but it was very late to do, because the case was prescribed. So, Miguel Angel Gil and Enrique Cerezo are free and they manage the club the justice say they robbed. Anyway, in the other sentence, is set that they have robben between 1987 and 2005 much euros millions more, to do personal things, like reforms in their houses, buyings of wedding presents, medical private stetic surgeries, etc etc And in the annual accounts of 5-6 years ago, they admitted there are 200 million euros that just have dissapear... and anyone knows where are it. So, if Atletico said the deal is in 12 millions, probably the deal is in 20 millions, and 12 is the official tax, and 4 is for the Atletico owners and 4 for Newcastle owners.

Why did it have to be the "Saudi-backed regime"? When City buy players nobody refers to them as the Emirati-backed regime. We're not a fucking rebel faction in Yemen for God's sake, we're a football club.

It's certainly old-fashioned but I don't see what spiders have to do with it.

Wow, spot the owner of the NE's last Fax Superstore.

Well this thread got interesting.

Some leap from Bravado Dave to Slave Trader Dave. I'm not sure I like it.

or an hour and a half with a misjudged badly timed shite

Well my wife has lost her business as it involved impoting glass from and selling jewelery to the EU, and we have had o shelve plans to retire to Spain so does feel quite personal.

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It's an emotive issue for many of us in the end because it's actively fucking up our lives, no one can tell us why it was worth doing, and all we can see is the harm it's doing. I do genuinely believe we will be on our knees begging to rejoin in 5-10 years time, especially if the Tories remain at the helm throughout that period given how utterly shocking they are on economics. What gets me about all of this, even with the flag waving triumphalism of the moment itself, is that it's a national humiliation that the world and half of this country can see, but which those who voted for it cannot. I was proud of the UK, especially following the 2012 olympics. A great display of patriotism that really entrenched in me how much I loved the UK for all its faults. An international leader that punched above its weight and was respected around the world. Now it's just.. every time I see Johnson go up there in front of world leaders its a new humiliation. You asked before about facebook profile pictures - I'm not on facebook, but I'm more European in spirit than I am now British. Brexit literally stripped away the part of Britishness that I identified with. The outward looking, internationalist, rational and respectable country that it could be, replaced with a dark, introspective, hateful and corrupt nonsense of a state. Honestly, it's absolutely devastating what the Tories have allowed to happen to the UK with this. They're traitors to the country, all of them. All of them.

It’s a continuation of this arrogance they’ve rolled over from the Ferguson era, where it’s like this assumption the club is some amazing entity and it definitely wasn’t just down to Ferguson and other staff/the set up. All this “it’s the yanaited way” shite. Ronaldo was a panic buy due to Manchester City’s interest in him, it was that we can’t let a club we see as below us get our club legend arrogance at play, so they bought him to try and prove they’re still the big boys (and thus shift more shirts as you mention). Since Ferguson has left there’s been absolutely no logic to most their signings other than to grab names, or what they saw as the upcoming stars. No attempt to buy to fit a system they intended on playing. Contrast that with Manchester City, Liverpool, and Chelsea who all identify players that fit their system - City buying Rodri a player who, while was a very good player at Villarreal and Athletico, wasn’t a superstar name but was the perfect fit for Guardiolas system, compared to Manchester United buying Pogba - a superstar name who had been playing a completely different system and role at Juve one they never tried to replicate. I think Ronaldo himself likely knows he made a bad decision electing to go to Manchester United over Man City, imo he’d have been brilliant for Pep with the way they dominate possession and suffocate opposition as he’d have just stood in the box finishing all the moves made by Silva/Grealish/Foden/De Bruyne/Mahrez etc etc. Instead he’s at Manchester United where they have no fucking system, have chop and changed the system over and over with recent managers who have brought in random players who were/are names or had a break out season, they need more from their forward imo they can’t afford to have a player remain so far forward as they don’t dominate like Man City do - I think it’s why they look better when Cavani plays as he brings a lot of energy to the position. The positive here is while it’s clearly not working, they also won’t drop him so we get to watch this brilliant melt down every week where Ronaldo thrashes out at opposition players (see him kicking Curtis Jones on the ground then pretending he was going for the ball, or wildly lashing out at Ryan Fraser before again pretending he was only going for the ball as two examples), or simply whinges at all the players around him. I find what’s going on with Barca and their whole “we are back with the big boys in the transfer market” to be a similar type of keeping up with the joneses type nonsense. Long may it continue tbh.

This is great news (if it actually goes through)! Trippier is almost the perfect first signing. Really lays solid foundations. I remember some twerps in the media were spouting shit saying we'd sign a bunch of mercenaries in attacking positions early doors as the owners would want to spunk cash on all their personal favourites. This signing shows the board aren't the type of morons that occupy media positions in the football world, that they instead actually know enough to know they should be listening to football people and the manager in particular, and that that is exactly what they are doing because this must be a signing Howe suggested during the interview for the job. For me it shows there's a good level of trust from everyone. Just speaks to the positive atmosphere around the club since October. And importantly, too, it shows other players and clubs out there in the transfer window that we're not fucking around with wages or fees; that if a player is worth it and wanted, then everyone will work to get the deal done. I'm still getting used to the club being run at anything above 'crackpot' status, to be honest, let alone competently. It's strange to check a transfer rumour thread and be genuinely excited by the possibilities for a change. Now I know how CT must have felt all those years, bless his child-like enthusiastic cotton socks. We're all CTs today!

You can be sure. The only thing have change in the club between 1987 and 2022 is Simeone. This man is absolute amazing. It's the Atletico soul. The things he have achieve fighting against Real Madrid and Barcelona are incredibles. Miguel Angel Gil, that is the owner since 2003, is most intelligent than his father... But with him, the team was very bad until Simeone come back as a coach. And you can be sure, when Simeone decide to go... Atletico will suffer some like Arsenal or Man United when Wenger and Sir Alex gone. Is for that that I regret Shearer really never had the chance to get the team... Because I think Shearer is in Newcastle like Simeone in Atletico. And yes... The Striker... In 1998 we get Vieri, the man scored 24 goals in 24 matches.... He was Top Scorer. In 1999 we get Hasselbaink... He was second in Top Scorer (and it was the year we get relegated). Later... In First Division... Torres, Aguero, Forlán, Costa, Falcao, Villa, Mandzukic, Griezmann... But we did so many bad signings too. Vietto, Gameiro, Jackson Martínez...

(one for the fan(s) there).

I may have my tinfoil hat on but it seems odd that he barely posted for two years then started again regularly in December. Did we lose a poster with the capability to start an argument in an empty room round that time?

I can understand people voting leave. I can’t understand anyone still arguing it’s a good idea whilst simultaneously not being able to offer up a single positive. And living in France as well On the plus side the new beige as fuck CT means we haven’t had anyone to fill the void left by the Ginger Quim

I believe the technical term is 'frottage'.

Aye. It’s mint being the panto villain, though.

you from corbridge mate?

Because Man City have finished sportswashing and we’ve only just started. Wait till these bitches want a press pass or access to the nice buffet. They’ll play ball.

I mean I doff my tinfoil hat to him if it actually is Quiff. That’s a hell of a long game to play.

Piers Corbyn fan alert. FUCK ME.

Would take him in a heartbeat (so to speak)

With an axe, hopefully

Hand-delivered by Prince Andrew?

Had a summer job when I was about 16 or 17 with the Child Support Agency. I loved it when the Grade 6 sent me to send a long fax. A 50 page job would take at least half an hour. You could be away from your desk for the best part of an hour with a well-timed shite

Brexit wasn't the problem just the people implementing it. See also: communism.

The DOOMSCROLLER returns!

fish is going to be all over this like a cheap suit

Aye. And this paragraph halfway through which basically dismantles the whole premise of the piece.

Apparently he’s the first of 6 (six). Will tug the end off it if we have basically an entire new core of the team by February

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I'm not remotely hard. I don't profess to be. But you're posting from France telling us all what a great idea it was for you to vote Leave, and how you'd do it again tomorrow despite not being able to point to a single tangible benefit, and without having to suffer any of the numerous drawbacks. If you can't see how that makes you look a proper cunt, I can't help you.

Like punching a bowl of livers.

I thought His Royal Heinous said there were no witnesses at Pizza Express?

I knew a kid who went for a shite on his first day working at Nissan some time around 15 or so years ago, he was away the best part of 15 years or so.

Yeah I can understand how you'd still vote the same way. From France. Having experienced none of the consequences of your vote. I mean are you taking the fucking piss here?

Because I won't marry her, you think I want to dump her? I tend to see marriage as the kiss of death for relationships anyway, there's no part of me that wants any involvement with it. He's the most competent person available to deliver the Brexit that we ended up with. Everyone else, including many Tories, backed the fuck away from it. All I can see is that the next ten years of life in this country are going to be fucking hell. And when it's all over, we'll vote back in again anyway. I'm going to step back from this one now, it doesn't take much to bring me to full tirade on this due to how unbelievably frustrating it is. Still though, useful to understand your views so thanks for sharing.

MLF’d YP

I'm afraid I'm gonna struggle to have much sympathy for someone who lives in France and voted for us to leave the EU.