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A member of RTG has helpfully summarised their troubles https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/it-cant-get-any-worse-than-this.1493812/post-30753582

Hes obviously lost Ctrl

That’s a bold question, Noelie.

It's not fucking sensible if it doesn't land with the electorate because they are the people you need to win over. It's wishy washy bollocks. They are neither Leave nor Remain. They will negotiate a great new deal but they can't say whether they would prefer it to Remain. That is a fucking mental argument to take to an electorate.

In normal times the 500k disabled people who have successfully taken the government to court over losing benefits would’ve got more of a mention too

It’s worked for me

Almiron's celebration when he finally scores.

nO! sTEVE bRUCE IS STILL A CUNT!

Tell me, is your shift-key broken?

What the fuck is the point in games like this? Kane now has more England goals than Shearer but isn’t half the player. Im sure when the Montenegrin lads go back to graft theyll have some nice stories to tell but....meh.

Fair play to the Montenegro lads for having a duller anthem than ours. Some work that.

"I think you should take that back old boy!" :lol'

Live footage of the release.

Johnson with the mop has been the best so far. Clearly never picked one up in his life.

I want them to take a firm position that they can take to the electorate. If they can't confidently compete for votes with the Lib Dems then it's over for them anyway, so you can't worry about that. He's also made it easy for the Lib Dems to point at him and say "he's not Remain, we are". If he'd unequivocally come out for Remain, he would be able to more adequately compete with them for votes. Instead he's trying to walk a tightrope and letting the Lib Dems say "he's not Remain" and the Tories say "he's not Leave", and he's offering nothing in response. Take a position and argue for it like you mean it in a campaign. That is what wins people over. Corbyn has proven he can do that with social issues, the NHS etc. But in failing to do it on Brexit, he's lost the battle.

Indeed - and based on this, seems to be prepared to accept Brexit as a price for even a few more seats. Maybe she's envisioning that Labour will take the blame for this in the long run and she will hoover up the centre in full. But again, Brexit then becomes acceptable collateral damage. Labour could be argued to be playing the same game of course, except that they have stuck to what is actually a sensible fucking position on the whole thing despite the damage it's doing to them. The LDs decided that they were the party of pure Remain, would back outright revoking A50 - something they knew they would never have to do - and appear to be prepared to sell all of that down the river because none of it is as important as winning a few seats. If Labour were being as cynical, it would have been easy enough for them to go full Remain.

We all know any Remain majority in any second referendum would be narrow as fuck anyway. You're talking 55-45 at the very best, and most likely closer to - of course - 52-48. Obviously that's still preferable because it means our economy doesn't get hurled off a cliff, thus destroying the social fabric even more, but we're still going to hate each other. Heck, even those on the same side of the argument hate each other plenty.

The fact that you keep seeing it is Labour's fundamental failure on Brexit though. Most people don't pay enough attention to politics for a nuanced message to cut through. And quite frankly Labour's position is as much confused as it is nuanced given they can't even commit to whether they would campaign for or against this deal they say they would negotiate. I mean you must have watched Labour MPs get asked this question and they refuse to answer it. You or I understand why they're refusing but most people aren't prepared to entertain the mental gymnastics that explain their reticence. They just think "this cunt doesn't know what they want on the biggest issue facing the country. I'm not voting for them." That is a fucking shambolic position to try to take to an electorate that already has a problem with the leader of the party. The fact is, perception is reality, and if you don't SAY you're a Remain party, then you're not a Remain party. How an organisation that operates in the world of politics where perception is ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING hasn't grasped this is beyond me.

Definitely fair because without a Brexit there is no case for Indyref2

I think the position now was the original Labour policy. He's just reverted back to it so more of a 360.

Labour should wipe the floor on this issue. And be upfront. The tories promises on immigration will wreck the NHS even more. Patel and Javid, 2 second generation immigrants, are rank hypocrites too.

And btw, on the face of it there's nothing wrong with Corbyn saying that they should have arrested that ISIS bloke... But why can this silly cunt not spot a trap question. The bloke is fucking dead. You don't need to offer up what would have been a better option cos he's dead. Just say "of course it's a good thing that he's no longer causing bother" and if they try and push you to say more shut it down: "he's dead. Move on. Next question."

And all the while Corbyn offers nothing. I think Swinson is having a disastrous election campaign so far, but the idea that the Lib Dems should just bend over for Labour is daft imo. The two of them should have worked together, let the Lib Dems stand in the seats where polling suggested they could win over Tory remainers and then let the chips fall where they may. If it turned out that keeping Corbyn out of No 10 was more important to Tory remainers than actually remaining, then so be it. At least we would have given it a shot. Instead we're in this ridiculous position where the Tories have done the deal with the Brexit Party that everyone said they couldn't afford cos it would cost them moderate Tories, and still the opposition parties can't bite the bullet and do something themselves. Just fucking try it. Take a risk. We're fucked anyway if you don't. They are prepared to hand Johnson a majority and the Tories another 5 years in power rather than take an actual chance on one another. Swinson can fuck off but she can take that cunt Corbyn with her.

They do have a reality tv star for President, so it’s understandable.

You maybe didn’t watch til the end?

The US press failing to do their job by reporting that yesterday's impeachment proceedings "lacked pizazz". Unreal. Treating their much-vaunted democracy like it's a reality show.

In answer to the question, stop filming it and uploading to Facebook, probably and try to help.

Seriously?

Guarantee you CT does

He’s literally incapable of giving a shit. He doesn’t know how to. A lifetime spent pleasing his fucking self and no other fucker.

Say Ola to my leetle freng!

"Hmmm two hands..... do i really need to wipe?"

I would drive a lorry head on into your horse and cart to avoid a Tory majority.

I'd rather see 130,000 innocent people die that you use one death for your party political purposes. Disgusting behaviour.

It's because the people saying these things are incredibly fucking stupid.

i'm going to explain to you where you're going wrong here, although god only knows why i should need to.... you (and no doubt many others in the putrid facebook/twitter world of the terminally stupid) appear to be using bruce's relatively reasonable and surprising points haul thus far as a stick to beat newcastle supporters who viewed benitez as a last bastion of hope in a whole world of depressingly unambitious and vindictive mike ashley induced shite. and you're gloating about it. bruce might well fluke a top ten finish, he's done it before (just) with the mackems. this however wouldn't make him a good manager as i'm sure our mates down the road would tell you. indeed you need look no further than our very own alan pardew's 5th place finish to see how it's feasible for the footballing planets to miraculously align and produce an anomaly. bruce isn't an ashley masterstroke to guide us to football utopia. bruce hasn't been, isn't, nor will he ever be, fit to lace benitez's laces both as a competent manager or indeed a man. benitez represented hope and progression even under the strangling grip of a cunt like ashley. bruce represents 17th place finishes and fawning platitudes to an utter peice of human scum. they're well suited to each other mikey and stevie, they're both morally bankrupt. now... if you've really needed the glaringly obvious pointed out to you, you're either 1) thick as fucking pig shit. 2) on a really ill judged wind up. i'll give you the benefit of doubt and plump for the latter.

The Mag infiltration conspiracy is worse than I thought

The whole thing is brilliant. I don’t think anyone would have guessed all of our predictions would have been this dead on, despite it all being fairly inevitable. That thread is class, it’s basically just what we were saying from the start. Some tit who owned a semi pro club got the chance at owning them for essentially fuck all, inevitably the fact he doesn’t have money to put in and has no experience or know how mean that when they didn’t immediately go up so he could sell it’s blown up and they’re stuck together. The one absolute plum that gives it the “if he has any affinity for us at all he will sell” firstly the bloke has never given a flying fuck, he saw it as a chance at making a fair bit with little personal risk, secondly who the fuck would he sell it to? It’s a rotten club with a boring as fuck 90’s flat pack stadium located in an area devoid of anything interesting, with a horrible fan base who are doing their ample best to make every bit of the club poisonous, and finally this is just another example of fucking delusion, he saw Short do something he absolutely didn’t need to do and that they didn’t deserve by bailing them out and is now expecting this guy to essentially take a personal hit to help them (Forgoing any hope of making money I would presume as he’d not get much for them since they’re in League One and seemingly have a pretty nasty negative cash flow)? Fucking utter shambles of a club. I hope this bellend and his cockend mate Methven (“ahhhm dead excited we gorra pr lads fan in marras” thick cunts) are stuck with the club for at least as long as Ashley has owned NUFC. I also enjoyed the “he’s done so much right off the pitch” comments, that essentially boils down to the fact him and dickhead #2 used to regularly insult NUFC as he hasn’t done things right off the pitch. He has tried to stop the negative cash flow, seemingly he has failed as he needed an external loan. His master stroke was fooling those 6 fingered perverts to change their own seats rather than paying a company to do it and have them think it was brilliant, other than that he’s been a heap of shite.

Not particularly. But if he keeps up it'll be s decent achievent. Imagine the meltdown of the those with there bracket firmly up Rafas rusty bullet-hole if he managed to grab a top 10 finish?!?

Alreet y'bunch of puffs? On the hard stuff the neet, like. Puts fucking hair on your chest this stuff! Lol. Anyways, Laters. Ryder and out!