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Is this you @Tom “The Norwegian John Carver”

Until I hear Bournemouth have fell into a financial problem (while in the PL) it’s impossible for me to give Charnley and Ashley’s utter twaddle about financial restraint even remotely plausible. As zerosum says Bournemouth is a club which struggles for gates basically a third of our average, they’re making nowt compared to NUFC domestically or Internationally through tickets/merchandise. I think a good chunk of their squad cost more than Almiron, and even if you take them out there won’t be many that are as cheap as our usual penny pinching signings. If they can fund all that and be fine then there’s no reason whatsoever NUFC can’t match their spending.

Just as CT sold his gear and moved on to the next hobby. Unlucky

Keep focusing on the positives

Still better than to waste money on stupid things like good players, a good manager and needless luxuries like sufficient training facilities.

I despise him for his general cheeting and abhor Liverpool but that was a foul - he dragged him all over the place.

Thing is, if he got £50m plus whatever he makes from player sales, that's enough to get Newcastle United a consistent top 10 side and challenge in the cups etc. I just do not believe that he'd actually get that much, and he wouldn't have free reign to sign whoever he wants with that £50m. Say we sold Shelvey, Hayden & Murphy. What would we get? £30-40m? £90m is plenty on transfer fees. But I doubt Benitez would get the £50m, I'm convinced that £50m would include wages, agent fees and the like and I am convinced that wouldn't be allocated immediately so we'd get the same situation we saw with Almiron where we have to wait until deadline day in January for the deal to be finalised.

Does Van Dijk really think that little tuft on his chin looks good? I suppose he is Dutch, Kruls bowl cut was all the rage over there just a few years back.

He'll be getting called into Pogbas office for his p45 soon

Threads like that sum them up. Fat, cheesy chip covered losers going on about football hooligans. All of it coming from just seeing a few Dutch blokes that had watched the toon game there’s no connection, they probably wanted to see a PL game and we were at home so it’s a pretty easy trip for them. The Feyenoord thing man they then make up a connection between us and Ajax, which exists because Feyenoord like mackems and hate us. Hopefully they keep going with that and we can figure out how every fan base feels about the Tyne Wear rivalry. The odd comment in that thread was the bloke who felt he had to spell out that it goes against the grain to say he felt it was harsh for Feyenoord fans to stab normal Newcastle fans who weren’t looking for bother. If that type of opinion really is going against the grain then that site should just be shut down tbh, yet again that ‘classy’ fan base proving they are scum.

I've no doubt whatsoever that we'll still lose out to the usual suspects when it comes to VAR. VAR will help them more than it will us. (When we should really only benefit from it giving the decisions we just don't get).

Hooray, almost theoretically safe with three games to play. What a belter of a season. Fanks Mike.

Very much enjoying the idea of Hodgson holding hands with him as they wander around the National History Museum.

I've honestly never heard of any stabbings or violence,either home or away, against Feyenoord. As for the 'Feyenoord' link, I was expecting footage of Feyenoord fans wearing makem tops stabbing every Toon at least once. Fuckin cowardly collaborating bastards.

That permanent contract looking better and better for Ole

And Raoul Moat was

Aye, promises will just be reneged on anyway

He was a cunt of a player who seemed to get away with it due to looking about 12 years old

Aye, and if we sold Gayle to WBA for £16m to pay for Rondon, Charnley and Ashley wouldn't include the money saved on DG's wages in the pot for Benitez.

Morrison scores from that corner I think Cardiff could have held on. Yet again Warnock ruins football for everyone.

Mathematically safe. Next season will probably be even better and we might be safe with four games to go.

Fair answer mate. Not for a second jumping to defend them, losing Rafa will be entirely of their own making and such a shame for the club. I'm just trying to look at where we are and am wondering if, realistically, they actually have any more than £50m to stump up. That might well be the full extent of it, even if it includes wages and agent fees.

Fuck me, Morrison wants shooting with shit. Watches the corner all the way, then stoops too early and the ball goes off his back for a goal kick!

Aye, I did. Fuck sake. I'm an albatross.

I think the fact solskjaer comes across as a right bellend makes it better.

Barry Moat was about as much of a realistic buyer as Amanda Stavely and Kenyon were.

No hahaha Mines @toonlowdown

The accounts published don’t have to be as accurate and aren’t regulated heavily like public company filings, so I can’t say with this lot running things I believe them to be the clearest, it’s entirely possible Ashley has been siphoning more out the club and labeling it as something else. You can feel free to trust what the club are saying if you want tbh. If you’re happy to accept a PL club in 2019 can afford nothing more than around £20m in transfer fees yearly (since the other £30m they’re quoting will go to wages spread over the next half decade) again that’s totally up to you. As mentioned in the past they always mention wages having to be factored in when buying, yet the remaining wages on a contract of a player sold are never brought up. We’ve never been big spenders under Ashley, even when we finished 5th we didn’t spend, all of that has all been eaten up by two single season stints in the Championship? It’s also worth noting that for his entire 10 year ownership he has asset stripped the club to such a degree it barely owns anything outside of playing staff, as Trooper points out we’ve lost a lot of money in commercial deals. All of that goes into why I am not accepting them saying all we can afford is £50m a season (inclusive of wages, fees and other expenses) I can’t factor these issues out as they are exactly to blame for all of it so why should I have to exclude that from what I think should be available for Rafa to spend? It can be rectified going forward but it won’t be. We are going to lose Rafa Benitez over honesty over transfer fees and a moderate amount of investment in the training facilities, it’s absolutely absurd. I’ll also add that the wage aspect is being double counted in their bullshit model. The money available that they’re claiming comes as a result of the accounts, which factor in wage expense, they then include these future wages back into the £50m budget, and they will be again included when computing the next amount available.

It may well be ignorance on my part but you'd really struggle to find a needier, more desperate fan base than theirs.

'Best of the rest'. Fuck off. Anybody that dares to think that their club can challenge one of the big 6 (who were big 4 until a couple of those big 4 dropped so the media expanded the big category rather than acknowledge they weren't in it) is deluded. Benitez could break into it easily and with a modest budget imo

The debt should have been eaten as part of his buying cost, that was his fault for being the type of person he is and not conducting due diligence. Obviously I know that won’t happen, the thing is though iirc Charnley specifically mentions that the £111m ‘loan’ won’t be being recouped as the £33m was (which we owed Ashley because his stupidity resulted in relegation), it’s seen as long term and will be tacked on to any purchase price aka a way to ward off any potential buyers. As as for what should be available, the very fact they’re setting a number shows they’re being nob heads what clubs do that? You base your budget off of needs, forecasts, and current balances. They’re more than happy to figure future expenses into their calculation of budgets but will ignore future income. Aye they are withholding funds over that amount, they just paid Ashley £33m back and iirc they paid him £10m or so somewhat recently as well. I think we brought more money in last season than Leicester from tv rights and were basically tied with Everton for 7th out of the whole league, so aye I absolutely do think they are restricting our transfer funds heavily. If they did hand Rafa £50m plus a percentage of player sales, with the money going to transfer fees as the wage budget should be separate due to the more long term nature of it, that would be fair enough (of course we’d be ignoring the 10 years prior of underfunding) but as I say that isn’t what they’re proposing

The best part is literally everyone was saying this would be the case but they completely ignored it. Who would have thought the players would get sick of a former super sub Norwegian troll banging on the “this isn’t the Manchester United way” drum. I just hope the owners don’t click on that this Woodward doesn’t have a fucking clue what he’s doing.

Solskjær is a fraud like. Man U have got themselves caught up in the messiah complex. Was it a three year contract?

Talk about managing expectations

it’s not like Rafa is making ridiculous demands. He just wants to compete with and try to beat those teams above like Watford, Leicester, Wolves.. All it takes is a few quality signings and paying the wages that those type of players need. It’s not like we are Bournemouth with an 11,000 capacity ground. According to articles online we were 19th richest club in the world recently. Maybe hard to believe but come on man.. just give Rafa the backing he needs and he’d stay..

Charnley's statement just reinforces my decision not to go back till that cancer fucks off from our club. I'd love to see the day he's gone and would happily see the likes of Charnley marched around the town in a pillory getting rotten fruit pelted at them.

The entire country hates them deluded mags marra.

Perez has been great since Almiron has arrived.

10 points clear of relegation. What an amazing season it has been. Massive thanks to Charnley and Ashley, just glad our training facilities didn’t cost us points. Dummett had a quality game as well, won nearly every header in the box.

That’s my biggest worry about VAR, it’ll clear up some of the offside shite but whenever there is a ‘controversial’ decision to be made the pundit ref basically always backs the refs completely wrong decision even given all the replays you could want. So I’m worried it’ll not change them, no doubt it’ll help the “big sides” though.

Never mind VAR, someone should take a look at shit decisions made by that cunt against us on a regular basis - it was him who didnt give the pen at Old Trafford.

It’s the kind of decision that always goes against us too

Man City winning the title with 5 consecutive 1-0 wins would be hilarious

Glad that was in spoilers. Added a nice element of surprise to someone else hating the mackems. I knew it was coming but I didn't know what form it was going to take. Does this mean we have a patented "Special Relationship" with Coventry now?

OU Mamma!

I find it laughable that people are now complaining about VAR as it now means they have nothing to complain about during the game . Football fans are fickle as fuck and it sums up modern day society.

Your da was either a vicar or a pretty obvious serial killer.

Took this the other day it’s where I was brought up.....quite pleased with it