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He's obviously never seen Messi.

Why on earth is this important to you? And, just to remind you, if we come out the CU, which is an absolute requirement for FTA's by definition, there will have to be a border in NI. This will break the GFA and could see a return of the troubles. Is it really worth it?

Paul Brown's 'all with smiling faces' is a brilliant read for anyone interested in this era, Newcastle United basically formed by some teenagers from the east end. When in financial trouble as they moved to their third ground off Chillingham road local businesses and people helped out. Pitch one was near Haults yard off Walker road, pitch two near the Byker wall where I sometimes played myself and my Dad before me. Had no idea when I played there it's significance. The final ground off Chilli road was where the Gaza club once was.

Between 3 and 4 in the am

I know mate you worry about their safety. Jesus there isn't one thing you could learn from Dexter.

Tooj sent me a link to this. https://www.thefulltoss.com/england-cricket-blog/england-ashes-lamentable-truth/ Difficult to argue with any of that

Neoliberalism has all but destroyed the hopes and aspirations of people under 25 in half of Europe mate... And I've said plainly before that I understand the reasons this happened. And cast little to no judgement on that, aside from where it concerns bigotry. My point now is that they should be turning on this, and they're not - so unless you're saying we need to be tolerant of their weakness concerning admitting their mistake, and I can't for the life of me think why you would feel we should, I don't feel as though our positions are different. I didn't say it was a panacea at all incidentally. All I'm saying is that Britain, logically, looking at what we're faced with, is NOT going to be better off out of it. And that the things people thought they were voting for, do not appear to be deliverable. Take the EU itself out of it for a moment - logically, we're in a fucking stupid position. That's my problem.

I've maintained from the beginning as Renton will attest there won't be any kind of proper Brexit so I'm not really surprised at the shambles. I will be impacted far more than you if there is a botched Brexit yet I have it in me to look fairly at the leave voters even though they might cause me hassles I currently don't have to worry about yet. The EU have all but destroyed the hopes and aspirations of people under 25 in half of Europe - mainly the South by maintaining Noe-Liberal austerity promoted by Germany and destroyed the savings of the older folk with endless bond printing and quantum easing. It has turned Eastern Europe to the far right and is pushing Italy into a banking crisis even after it destroyed Greece. So shut the fuck up about it being some kind of cure all panacea.

Nothing to see here.

As though the actual winning of the award carries no benefit in terms of investment for arts etc. Aye, marra, we'll just pretend we won anyway

@Ant

The main focus of my ire was not you, but in fairness, you were on here a couple of days ago saying we should cancel the whole thing if we couldn't get a good outcome. If that remains your position, I expect to see you admitting you were wrong in due course, and making clear that you will, if given the opportunity, vote against this lunacy. I don't give a shit if people have been wrong about something, I'm wrong all the fucking time (ask ewerk). What bothers me is refusing to acknowledge it. If you need more time to be able to do this, fine, but one way or another you will come to this conclusion.

That sure as fuck doesn't look like where we're heading CT. It looks like we're going to be sold some manner of new initiative, knowing the Tories quite possible called something like "The Market Single and the Union of Customs" which will be totally different to the Single Market and Customs Union *cough* but will allow us to do everything as we had done previously, somehow. While throwing away all decision making powers. And the only beneficiary of this in any real sense, will be the Tory party.

Absolutely my position apart from being nowhere near as tolerant in the first place.

I've been hugely tolerant of, and sympathetic to, the reasons this happened - but the longer this has gone on, and the more clear it is that nothing anyone thought they were fucking voting for is deliverable, the more I'm seeing the people who voted for it dig their heels in and carry on as if its all going to be ok, just because they don't want to admit they were so easily duped. So my tolerance ends there. If you're wrong about something you fucking own it, you don't carry on like spoiled children clutching at every imaginable straw and lashing out at everyone else for your own fuck up.

White Lacoste? Was the oil stain from a Vauxhall Nova?

Is that horse high enough?

Lads. Seriously.

Read a couple of negative reviews on Trip Advisor, so to make sure I'm denied entry, I'm going to turn up in jeans, trainers and blackface.

I'd imagine that the food would be much better.

And I already loved the Irish to start with. The proper ones, not you and Ant

At London prices, that's a couple of bottles of Cobra and a peshwari naan.

Charnley, probably.

Bit of controversy tonight as apparently Coventry knew the result 15 minutes earlier...

Bogtrotters.