Bellamy is world class

[Guest alex]

Agree with the comments about Shearer like. In that period when we slipped from being CL qualifers / a top 4-5 side during and after the Souness debacle it was almost like that's all the club was about, i.e. Shearer getting the club goalscoring record. Any other 'top' side would've either replaced him completely or eased him into the background but he had far too much influence imo.

[sammynb 3357]

I remember the game against Everton in 02 where he scored one of Li Tie's* arse to win it. Shearer (rightly) got the headlines for his wonder-strike) but Bellamy's tireless performance won us that game. He hadn't been on the best run of goal-scoring form and when it went in, he sunk to his knees by the Corner with a look of vindication and relief on his cheeky face.

 

So many games he carved out the one or two chances Shearer needed to get us the win, just by winning a corner or a foul near the box.

 

Quality player and imo the kind of "football man" the game needs more of.

 

 

 

 

* I think it was him

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[Asprilla 96]

Agree with the comments about Shearer like. In that period when we slipped from being CL qualifers / a top 4-5 side during and after the Souness debacle it was almost like that's all the club was about, i.e. Shearer getting the club goalscoring record. Any other 'top' side would've either replaced him completely or eased him into the background but he had far too much influence imo.

Yep, it was a bit sad tbf.

[Renton 21637]

I make it that in 245 appearances for premiership clubs he scored 73 goals? That's a conversion rate of about 30% which isn't really world class for a striker if we're being objective. I'm aware he's much more than scoring goals but his injuries and personality make it difficult to base a team around him imo. Would have been brilliant for us this season though.

 

I'd say in contrast that Giggs is, or was, world class. Pretty subjective though really, as has been said.

[The Fish 10858]

I make it that in 245 appearances for premiership clubs he scored 73 goals? That's a conversion rate of about 30% which isn't really world class for a striker if we're being objective. I'm aware he's much more than scoring goals but his injuries and personality make it difficult to base a team around him imo. Would have been brilliant for us this season though.

 

I'd say in contrast that Giggs is, or was, world class. Pretty subjective though really, as has been said.

 

Ah, here's a thing. You know these days it seems fashionable to play with one fella up front and a couple mobile forwards hanging off him, If Bellamy was coming through now he'd be thought of, not as a "striker" but as (what I'm going to call) a wide forward.

 

Their jobs are not to score, that's for the Drogba's of the world, there's is to give him chances and bring the midfield into play.

 

No, I reckon his goal record can't be held against him.

[Guest alex]

His goal record counts more for him than against him imo for the type of player he is, i.e. not an out and out goalscorer (like Kevin Nolan ).

[Guest WDP]

I make it that in 245 appearances for premiership clubs he scored 73 goals? That's a conversion rate of about 30% which isn't really world class for a striker if we're being objective. I'm aware he's much more than scoring goals but his injuries and personality make it difficult to base a team around him imo. Would have been brilliant for us this season though.

 

I'd say in contrast that Giggs is, or was, world class. Pretty subjective though really, as has been said.

 

Ah, here's a thing. You know these days it seems fashionable to play with one fella up front and a couple mobile forwards hanging off him, If Bellamy was coming through now he'd be thought of, not as a "striker" but as (what I'm going to call) a wide forward.

 

Their jobs are not to score, that's for the Drogba's of the world, there's is to give him chances and bring the midfield into play.

 

No, I reckon his goal record can't be held against him.

The Fish talking total and utter sense shocker? You been taking illegal substances?

[The Fish 10858]

I make it that in 245 appearances for premiership clubs he scored 73 goals? That's a conversion rate of about 30% which isn't really world class for a striker if we're being objective. I'm aware he's much more than scoring goals but his injuries and personality make it difficult to base a team around him imo. Would have been brilliant for us this season though.

 

I'd say in contrast that Giggs is, or was, world class. Pretty subjective though really, as has been said.

 

Ah, here's a thing. You know these days it seems fashionable to play with one fella up front and a couple mobile forwards hanging off him, If Bellamy was coming through now he'd be thought of, not as a "striker" but as (what I'm going to call) a wide forward.

 

Their jobs are not to score, that's for the Drogba's of the world, there's is to give him chances and bring the midfield into play.

 

No, I reckon his goal record can't be held against him.

The Fish talking total and utter sense shocker? You been taking illegal substances?

It's the responsibilty of being an uncle to the next Paul Gascoigne, it's matured me.

[Renton 21637]

I make it that in 245 appearances for premiership clubs he scored 73 goals? That's a conversion rate of about 30% which isn't really world class for a striker if we're being objective. I'm aware he's much more than scoring goals but his injuries and personality make it difficult to base a team around him imo. Would have been brilliant for us this season though.

 

I'd say in contrast that Giggs is, or was, world class. Pretty subjective though really, as has been said.

 

Ah, here's a thing. You know these days it seems fashionable to play with one fella up front and a couple mobile forwards hanging off him, If Bellamy was coming through now he'd be thought of, not as a "striker" but as (what I'm going to call) a wide forward.

 

Their jobs are not to score, that's for the Drogba's of the world, there's is to give him chances and bring the midfield into play.

 

No, I reckon his goal record can't be held against him.

 

I've not been following his career since he left, but his lack of clinical precision when in front of goal was his worst quality on the pitch when he was at Newcastle, regardless of what type of player he was positionally.

 

Off the pitch, the number of clubs he has played for would indicate to me he has a toxic personality, I don't believe this 'he's just a passionate player' stuff personally.

 

Good player, undoubtedly, but world class? Not for me.

[The Fish 10858]

If you forget about the fact he's labelled a striker and if, instead, he was labelled a winger I think you'd think differently about him.

 

I know "World Class" is one of those phrases that divides people.

 

Does it mean that he's the best in his position? If so, then he's not.

Does it mean that he wouldn't look out of place in the great teams of the world? Then I would say he is. Incredible pace, top class first touch, great vision, a few tricks in his book, fearless, boundless endeavour, and a 1 in 3 strike record is very good for a midfielder.

 

if you stripped away his attitude off the pitch, his nationality, his odd hair-cut choices, and just looked as his attributes, I believe he would not have looked out of place at Man U, Real, Inter/AC.

 

It's a shame he never played at a world cup, I think his passion would have been a welcome counter-point to the France and England "stars" apathy.

[manc-mag 1]

If you forget about the fact he's labelled a striker and if, instead, he was labelled a winger I think you'd think differently about him.

 

I know "World Class" is one of those phrases that divides people.

 

Does it mean that he's the best in his position? If so, then he's not.

Does it mean that he wouldn't look out of place in the great teams of the world? Then I would say he is. Incredible pace, top class first touch, great vision, a few tricks in his book, fearless, boundless endeavour, and a 1 in 3 strike record is very good for a midfielder.

 

if you stripped away his attitude off the pitch, his nationality, his odd hair-cut choices, and just looked as his attributes, I believe he would not have looked out of place at Man U, Real, Inter/AC.

 

It's a shame he never played at a world cup, I think his passion would have been a welcome counter-point to the France and England "stars" apathy.

 

This is all just garnish now Dave. You've made your accidental good point for the year so pipe down a bit, yeah?

[Renton 21637]

If you forget about the fact he's labelled a striker and if, instead, he was labelled a winger I think you'd think differently about him.

 

I know "World Class" is one of those phrases that divides people.

 

Does it mean that he's the best in his position? If so, then he's not.

Does it mean that he wouldn't look out of place in the great teams of the world? Then I would say he is. Incredible pace, top class first touch, great vision, a few tricks in his book, fearless, boundless endeavour, and a 1 in 3 strike record is very good for a midfielder.

 

if you stripped away his attitude off the pitch, his nationality, his odd hair-cut choices, and just looked as his attributes, I believe he would not have looked out of place at Man U, Real, Inter/AC.

 

It's a shame he never played at a world cup, I think his passion would have been a welcome counter-point to the France and England "stars" apathy.

 

This is all just garnish now Dave. You've made your accidental good point for the year so pipe down a bit, yeah?

 

 

He'd be world class if his finishing was better, end of. Can't believe so many people have forgotten how frustrating this was (eclipsed by Dyer, admittedly).

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

All this talk of world class players is making me think of Ameobi, when's his testimonial due?

[Holden McGroin 6602]

Ameobi is NUFC's 3rd top scorer in the league cup history. Add that to his European exploits as well and it makes him an all time great .

[Guest WDP]

All this talk of world class players is making me think of Ameobi, when's his testimonial due?

Now, it's actually due now. You get Real Madrid here and the ground would still be half empty. Poor Shola, he'd get my twenty quid for all the abuse he's suffered down the years.

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

I'd definately go to his testimonial. If his hips hadn't gone to shit he'd be an England regular by now, one of the most devastating finishers I've ever seen in the Championship at least, some of the shite playing for England is a disgrace.

[Guest WDP]

I love seeing players who do new things football like Hernandez header on Sunday, some of the tricks both Ronaldo's do and have done I've never seen, and the Cruyff turn was ground breaking, S Shola can claim one in that he developed that unique and almost unseen technique of scoring goals where the ball bobbles 20 times before going in. Never seen a footballer do it as consistently.

[ChezGiven 0]

I love seeing players who do new things football like Hernandez header on Sunday, some of the tricks both Ronaldo's do and have done I've never seen, and the Cruyff turn was ground breaking, S Shola can claim one in that he developed that unique and almost unseen technique of scoring goals where the ball bobbles 20 times before going in. Never seen a footballer do it as consistently.

 

The ancient art of the grasscutter.

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

After what you said about players reading the forum, I think Shola definitely reads this one. His form has dramatically improved since I've defended him on here against people saying Ranger is better. Be interesting to see if he plays tonight, hope we have a right go at Arsenal and don't capitulate.

[Mac-Toon 1]

Everyone can be world class in little patches. Best goal ever by the way.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkv7Zd76oSc

 

Bellamy, he's always been world class. (Spirit, Pace, Positioning, Expletives, Power, Finishing - He's got the lot, just a little tw*t who never got given credit for his skill with him being a Welsh journeyman)

[manc-mag 1]

Everyone can be world class in little patches. Best goal ever by the way.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkv7Zd76oSc

 

Bellamy, he's always been world class. (Spirit, Pace, Positioning, Expletives, Power, Finishing - He's got the lot, just a little tw*t who never got given credit for his skill with him being a Welsh journeyman)

 

Whats with the 'Kauto Star' business on the flags?

[manc-mag 1]

Best goal ever scored, just to put thisa one to bed:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn3OtbMmaC4

[TicTacWoe 0]

Best goal ever scored, just to put thisa one to bed:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn3OtbMmaC4

 

Le Tissier was unbelievable like, always seemed to score amazing goals.

[Mac-Toon 1]

Best goal ever scored, just to put thisa one to bed:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn3OtbMmaC4

I actually meant best backheeled goal ever. Le Tiss against Blackburn that you've put up is an absolute worldy.

 

You must admit - it's a canny effort though for a Glentoran player.

[Tooj 17]

Best goal ever scored, just to put thisa one to bed:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn3OtbMmaC4

Is that my volley at the last summer piss up?